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Lets get on with it, Hard Exit, Hard border in NI, Patience is running out now with the Europeans, we voted to leave although some of us didn't, however we got to get out, I think all this farting about is causing havoc, lets get out now!!!!!
 
may is too weak to deal with these eu weasels. we need churchill or thatcher back. sod 'em. it should be up to UK and ROI to decide on borders, not them meddling eurocrats.
ROI is in the EU.
If the UK leaves the EU, then there will be tariffs and all the rest between the EU and the UK.
If there were no restrictions between the UK and ROI, then companies from both the EU and the UK would set up shop importing and exporting via the ROI.
Immigrants from the EU would also be able to legally enter the UK via the ROI.

There are 3 options as I see it.
Stay in the EU.
Give the residents of NI a referendum on whether to remain part of the UK or become part of the ROI.
Renege on the Good Friday agreement.
 
Given so much of Ireland exports are to the UK and is separate from mainland Europe, why dont they put Ireland in a special economic status, it can trade freely with the uk and EU. Ireland stays in the EU but gets best of both worlds. In anycase Ireland accounts for a very small amount of intra EU trade. It is artificially higher due to the tax scams they allow
 
Makes me chuckle when the French "threaten" the Brits that we would need Visa's to visit their country on holiday ................. I can't remember ever needing a Visa to visit France and I went their on holiday LONG before the EEC morphed into the EU

who cares ............
 
Britain dragging us poor Irish people out of the EU and making a right mess of it while their at it. Very frustrating
Hard to argue about the making a mess of it part, but I've never had any time for the so-called EU. I have never accepted that it can somehow be some fundamental Irish position that the EU is a force for good. The evidence proves otherwise. And let's not pretend that the EU has any respect for the Irish - Nice 2 and Lisbon 2 spring to mind...

Also let's remember that the south is a net contributor and always has been - consider the fishing rights etc. which the EU take.
 
The tool comes with an instruction leaflet which states Milton Keynes, and an additional leaflet which states in umpteen languages that their office is now in Belgium.
“Due to our reorganisation, the responsible manufacturer and it’s address have been changed to: Makita Europe N.V., Jan-Baptist Vinkstraat 2, 3070 Kortenberg, Belgium”.
 
For all I know, Makita moving their European headquarters, makes no difference at all?
Makita may not sack anyone from their office in Milton Keynes.
Makita my not decide to not replace people that leave or retire from their Milton Keynes office.
Then again perhaps the opposite will be the case?
 
What ever side of the table you sit one has to remember we are in a very powerful negotiation, on their side they have many armies with crappy weapons and we have a small army with a big weapon, it is a game of chess and will go to the 11th hour, every major international negotiations always goes to the last minute and this is no different, normally it is behind closed doors so we don't really see how it plays out but now we are front row seaters we are seeing a game of will and misdirection.

Take the Irish border, this is a massive red herring and designed to stall and instil a sense of despair etc into the voter, for a year post the Brexit result we were on good ground with the Irish PM and we actually agreed that it wasn't a big problem to extend what already happens over the border with VAT and other tax differences and then the EU realised after trying to play all its other cards like Gibralta, or the migrant camps coming over to the UK (even though it is a UK/French arrangement external to the EU ) that it was clear we were leaving, roll in a meeting with the Irish PM and the EU big wigs all of a sudden we have dragged the peace agreement into it, the so called impossible issue of a soft border etc etc, note here that a prominent IRA spokesman expressed that Brexit would not effect the peace deal in any way and the times of violence are behind them.
There is absolutely no issue with the Irish Border that cannot be agreed on with a simple solution that has already been offered but here we go back to the EU trying to stall it and for their own interest they need to ensure the whole leaving process appears to be a massive failure and catastrophe for the UK, if they just agreed and made it simple then this would encourage other countries to follow and trust me there is no shortage of them that now are thinking about it.

The way the EU will win is if May gives too much and doesn't take us fully out of both the S-Market and the C-Union even an extension on these would see us paying 10's of billions into the EU as continuous members until we reach another date by which time they concoct another way to keep us tied up.

There is so much scaremongering based on supposed surveys and polls created by groups and institutions that are biased through vested interests, funding and/or simply have a extremely bad record for getting things correct.

All I ask is if anyone can tell me any documentary the BBC has done to promote the Brexit outcome and give a positive angle, I can name several that have shown the opposite... the problem is most people lap this up without realising the sheer bias, misinformation, misrepresentation and deep internal conflicts of interest the programs shown have.. the BBC gets hundreds of millions in EU funding indirectly or directly but you either listen to there excuses or judge it for what it is.

Citation for those who need one below - a quarter of a billion isn't loose change!

Early day motion 791 - EU FUNDING OF THE BBC - https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2007-08/791
 
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Knew it wouldn't be long before darkwood did another dissertation. :)

Let UK & Ireland trade & do as they won't, in their best interests. Sod the EU.

Oh no just remembered they can't, its against the club rules.
 
I can't see what he problem is...over the last 1000 years,we have had next to no problems,with any of the countries in Europe...
 
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