Death penalty

[Adam W]

i prefer the american system where they have concecutice sentences e.g. 5 life sentences or 150 years etc in prison with no chance of parole.

terrorists should have no human rights and shot on site.

How will making terrorists martyrs discourage the next generation of terrorists?

The media have a part to play in this as well - everyone knows the name 'Raoul Moat' but who can name the copper he shot? If there's no such thing as bad publicity, why give all the publicity to the killer and none to the victim?
Conversely everyone knows the name 'Lee Rigby' and recognises this picture:

but how many people could name the two who killed him, or visualise what they look like? They wanted to be shot on sight - to be made martyrs and gain publicity for what they believed in, but (IMO rightly) Lee Rigby is the one who is remembered.

If terrorists can expect to live out the rest of their days lying forgotten in some jail while their victims are hailed as heroes, then what is the point of them killing in the first place?

 

[Engineer54]

What I find completely baffling about terrorism,whether they be religious nuts who believe in ancient fairy tails or freedom fighters who have obsession with tribal nationalism is the absolute fact that we are but a very brief moment in the history of man and an infinitesimal moment in the history of the planet and the cosmos

We are nothing but that brief moment in time,then to inflict such misery and heartbreak taking that into consideration is mind boggling that they can do such things

The religious nuts carry out their evil deeds in the name of their God,if that God is so omnipotent and powerful why for goodness sake do they think he needs a mere mortals hand enforcing his doctrine

Des, i've spent years working in the Middle East, and i've never been able to hold any kind of discussion or question anything regarding their religion , and these were individuals that you would consider as far more westernised than most. They have been indoctrinated from birth, and believe without question everything they have been taught both at home at school and mosque... So you can imagine the wall you would need to climb to have any form of meaningful discussion with a religious extremist/terrorist, it just ain't gonna happen!! This is why there is not a glimmer of a chance ever being able to rehabilitate these extremists, ...None!!

They can't answer any of those questions you pose above, so they just fall back on what they have be taught, and NOTHING unfortunately is going to change

 

[Engineer54]

How will making terrorists martyrs discourage the next generation of terrorists?

The media have a part to play in this as well - everyone knows the name 'Raoul Moat' but who can name the copper he shot? If there's no such thing as bad publicity, why give all the publicity to the killer and none to the victim?
Conversely everyone knows the name 'Lee Rigby' and recognises this picture:
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but how many people could name the two who killed him, or visualise what they look like? They wanted to be shot on sight - to be made martyrs and gain publicity for what they believed in, but (IMO rightly) Lee Rigby is the one who is remembered.

If terrorists can expect to live out the rest of their days lying forgotten in some jail while their victims are hailed as heroes, then what is the point of them killing in the first place?

The cost of keeping them in prison, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds a year sounds like a pretty good reason to me!! Plus there's zero chance to indoctrinate others while they are incarcerated either!!

 

[D Skelton]

How will making terrorists martyrs discourage the next generation of terrorists?

The media have a part to play in this as well - everyone knows the name 'Raoul Moat' but who can name the copper he shot? If there's no such thing as bad publicity, why give all the publicity to the killer and none to the victim?
Conversely everyone knows the name 'Lee Rigby' and recognises this picture:
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but how many people could name the two who killed him, or visualise what they look like? They wanted to be shot on sight - to be made martyrs and gain publicity for what they believed in, but (IMO rightly) Lee Rigby is the one who is remembered.

If terrorists can expect to live out the rest of their days lying forgotten in some jail while their victims are hailed as heroes, then what is the point of them killing in the first place?

Adebalajo and adebewale.

I didn't need to look that up.

Scum!

They're getting a good hiding in prison from what I hear too!

 

[Adam W]

The cost of keeping them in prison, at a cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds a year sounds like a pretty good reason to me!! Plus there's zero chance to indoctrinate others while they are incarcerated either!!

Why give terrorists what they want just to save a couple of quid?
And would it not be a bit cheaper if nobody went around murdering people in the street in the first place?

 

[D Skelton]

My idea of the perfect prison system for serious offenders:

A penal colony, on an island, in the middle of nowhere. The whole island walled and guarded by geezers with big guns on towers. Dump the scum on the island and leave them to it. Basic rations to be dropped once a month. Cheap and cheerful.

 

[GB.Kayak]

My idea of the perfect prison system for serious offenders:

A penal colony, on an island, in the middle of nowhere. The whole island walled and guarded by geezers with big guns on towers. Dump the scum on the island and leave them to it. Basic rations to be dropped once a month. Cheap and cheerful.

Already tried that ... place called New South Wales on the continent of Australia! Are you volunteering for a tour of duty?

... mind you sentencing then was much harder than it is now.

 

[Engineer54]

Why give terrorists what they want just to save a couple of quid?
And would it not be a bit cheaper if nobody went around murdering people in the street in the first place?

It's NOT just a couple of quid though is it, the money spent on keeping this scum in prison for life could be far better spent elsewhere!!
Who gives a flying f**k if these scum think they are martyrs or not, we'll be well rid of them, end of!!

 

[shanky887614]

How will making terrorists martyrs discourage the next generation of terrorists?

The media have a part to play in this as well - everyone knows the name 'Raoul Moat' but who can name the copper he shot? If there's no such thing as bad publicity, why give all the publicity to the killer and none to the victim?
Conversely everyone knows the name 'Lee Rigby' and recognises this picture:
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but how many people could name the two who killed him, or visualise what they look like? They wanted to be shot on sight - to be made martyrs and gain publicity for what they believed in, but (IMO rightly) Lee Rigby is the one who is remembered.

If terrorists can expect to live out the rest of their days lying forgotten in some jail while their victims are hailed as heroes, then what is the point of them killing in the first place?

if the terrorists are dead there wont be a new generation of terrorists

 

[Engineer54]

My idea of the perfect prison system for serious offenders:

A penal colony, on an island, in the middle of nowhere. The whole island walled and guarded by geezers with big guns on towers. Dump the scum on the island and leave them to it. Basic rations to be dropped once a month. Cheap and cheerful.

Unfortunately, the Anoraks from ''Amnesty International'' and the like, will be screaming from the rooftops. Just can't do anything like that anymore. The French penal colonies of the 20's had the right idea, and was along very similar lines to your proposal!! lol!!