Din Rail Enclosure

[uksparks]

I totally accept that it would be better to use a proper enclosure but this had cost nothing where an adaptable box big enough inc postage will set me back £30 which the customer does not want to pay. Yes usually use wago enclosures, but if they don't want to pay for it I'm not going to turn the job down.

this enclosure is perfectly safe and acceptable, not compromised it at all in terms of ip rating.

 

[uksparks]

Well the Perspex I think my neighbour gave me if I remember, and the cu that was purchased my a customer as his rcd had gone and I charged him £50 for a new one when screwfix had the boxes on offer at £50 and I gutted it and was left with a shell, I've got a couple more empty ones.

I accept what you are saying and that I shouldn't lower my standards, but is rather have the money, and I don't think it's lowering my standards as such as it's not messy, ok it wasn't designed for it, but it will be a neat tidy job, when I do it in a week or so I'll take plenty of photos and then you can see yourself.

 

[uksparks]

I've already come down from £397 to £300 to get the job.

 

[davesparks]

Postage? What's wrong with your local wholesaler?
Where and how did you get that mk box for free?

I just don't get this whole the customer doesn't want to pay for that malarkey. you submit an honest price for what it costs to do the job properly, they either accept it or they don't.

 

[uksparks]

Eddies said they don't do one of the size I need, they said they are the only ones. I refuse to uses neweys and cef.

the box was paid for by another customer as they paid for an rcd and I kept the rest.

You are clearly in the position to turn work down for the sake of £30 then, I'd rather get the job, take the money and move on.

 

[Silly Sausage]

It was the bit 'I'm going to glue a bit of plastic on' that did it for me!

uksparks, you're either a wind up merchant, or an out & out cowboy!

 

[uksparks]

I'm not a cowboy, please clearly state what is wrong with using this enclosure...? other than it physically having a different look to it, what is the problem?

 

[davesparks]

When you get to the point where you have to glue a bit of plastic left over from another job into a spare CU you have in the shed in order to actually make a job worthwhile then I think you need to take a serious look at your pricing structure.

If when I visit a property to do a quote for a job and they are genuinely hard-up but the work is necessary for safety or whatever then I will put materials in at cost and put the labour in at my 'regular customer' rate, But otherwise the price is what it is and if they don't like it they can go elsewhere.
9 times out of 10 when i've said no to reducing a price when they turn around and accept the original price anyway.
And then quite often they use the 'the other quote was £50 cheaper can you match that?' approach, I advise them to accept the 'other quote' and they turn around and accept my price anyway (Hint, often there isn't another quote).

It is easy to loose sight of the fact that a self employed person will always come in cheaper than a company quoting for the same job, they have much higher overheads to meet.

I'm running a business not a charity!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Because it will look like a hatchet job!!!

For the sake an extra Tenner, do it right.

 

[davesparks]

I'm not a cowboy, please clearly state what is wrong with using this enclosure...? other than it physically having a different look to it, what is the problem?

It was not designed for the purpose.

It has not been type tested or approved for the purpose.

The manufacturer did not intend for it to be used this way.

The perspex is unlikely to have undergone the necessary flamability tests to be used as an electrical enclosure

The glue may fail and the perspex fall out.

Adaptable boxes cost less than a tenner

Adapting an existing CU to become a joint box is sometimes necessary if it cant be removed for whatever reason (eg, flush mounted) but generally speaking you'd make up a complete new cover out of a metal sheet or suitable insulating sheet (eg, paxolin)
To be perfectly honest you'd probably come under less flak if you'd riveted a bit of plastic trunking lid inside the hole rather than the clear perspex.

 

[uksparks]

Ok ill use an adaptable box, you say you can get one big enough for under a tenner, prove it, show me where I can get one 300mm wide for £10 and ill buy it.

Enought said, ill get a box, but you CANNOT get one for £10 that big.

 

[Corbs]

bit of cream cleaner sorted (i think )

Junction Adaptable Box 300 x 220 x 120mm Outdoor Waterproof IP56 GEWISS GW 44209 | eBay

 

[James-]

I see where you are coming from saying that two of the same enclosures will look good next to each other to joe public compared to an adaptable box bu5 would be un easy with this. Only you can decide as only you know the quality of material used etc etc. I would push for the extra cash for a box to be happy.

 

[uksparks]

bit of cream cleaner sorted (i think )

Junction Adaptable Box 300 x 220 x 120mm Outdoor Waterproof IP56 GEWISS GW 44209 | eBay

Ive just looked at this and I wouldn't be able to mount a rail in the centre as the mounts are in the wrong place. Thanks anyway, I'll just buy a wago enclosure and have done with it.

 

[Corbs]

Ive just looked at this and I wouldn't be able to mount a rail in the centre as the mounts are in the wrong place. Thanks anyway, I'll just buy a wago enclosure and have done with it.

couldn't you mount them in the vertical rails/indents ?

 

[uksparks]

No as it will not fit that way, ideally needs to be mounted horizontally with rail in vertical center.

 

[uksparks]

Ive just sent him a new quote, see what he says.

 

[Silly Sausage]

We'll make a Professional out of you yet, uks.
Hang on in here! :smilielol5:

 

[Deleted member 72666]

No as it will not fit that way, ideally needs to be mounted horizontally with rail in vertical center.

Yes it will, It'll fit dead center horizontally, you've got 4 vertical rails to screw to using slotted din rail.

 

[uksparks]

That's true.