Eicr prices

[Spazz]

So its not free, its included in the EICR then??

They pay £20 per circuit and it includes a free PAT test for 50 items.
The EICR they must pay for!

Normally £2 per item.
The reason I give them free like I said is the pushing point to get the job - its not advertised - if they are like we will let you know then I send them a written quote which states if taken out within 30 days of this quote - it includes free PAT testing upto £50 items.

I have done 3 of these already now (offer only been running just over a month) and the 3 have booked for PAT testing for the next 4 years as well. Plus they got me to repair all faults I found there and then as well as any damaged equipment they paid for.

Normally my PAT testing includes replacement fuses and plugs where needed (max of 5 per 50 items) but not on this offer.
The last one I did turned into over £700 worth of work - not bad when they where looking elsewhere.

 

[oldtimer]

Nicholas your estimate of 50 items in 2 hours is 2.5 minutes an item mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm just enough time to put a sticker on

 

[Spazz]

I normally bring my partner with me to do them - due to her condition (not going into it!)
Normal time for 1 person is 5 mins per item - it Im testing and she is sticking and writing then less than 2.5mins each item.

We are not all sticker men!

All customers get a certificate which shows the IR reading and the Earth Connectivity reading. Any questions I will show you a copy of one oldtimer.

 

[jon small]

I'm half an hour away in hartlepool and find it difficult to charge over £80 for an EICR (whether its a 2 up 2 down or a five bedroom detached house). I do tend to make things up to a worthwhile wage when I complete any remedial works- although obviously it isn't guaranteed there are any.

I recently lost work for the last letting agent I worked for as they phoned me up and said they had found an electrician who would work for £15 an hour flat rate plus itemised materials (no allowance for fuel etc?). They said they still wanted me to do the work as I had been reliable in the past, so if I matched the price it wouldn't be a problem. I said I would go no lower than £18 an hour & 40p/mile if out of town. I never heard from them again!

In the last few month the van has broken down multiple times, costing a fortune not just in repairs but in lost income, and all this month my road tax, van insurance, scheme & trustmark membership & PL/PI insurance have ran out and have to be renewed. Direct debits this year!

in a nutshell we are all struggling to make a decent living because many are trying to undercut the rest and allowing the customer dictate pricing to the detriment of safety which is the whole POINT of testing.
why as a trade are we allowing this to happen?, if we can't make a living many will give up and leave the testing to the cut price cowboys resulting in potentially avoidable deaths and shaming us all as a trade!
somehow we have to get landlords and the public to understand that they need to pay a reasonable price to ensure safety through proper testing not just thinking i got a cheap test certificate so everything s fine- remember when it was easy to get a dodgy mot for the car the number of death traps that were on the road and the massive regulation of the mot industry that has resulted - every test result now held on a massive database every aspect of the test tightened up =massive improvement in safety but much higher cost to customer and the cost of test set by governing body, i don't know but maybe this is what our trade needs to regain professional standards to ensure that testing is done correctly to a minimum standard to keep people safe

 

[trev]

Part of the problem, which has been done to death, is that there is only multiple organisations involved in our trade unlike MOTs and none of them have any teeth

 

[Spazz]

The problem with some landlords is that they just dont care!

We see it again and again on here - my landlord wont repair this!
my landlord popped over himself and repaired this!
my landlord got someone in to do half a job and wont get them back!


The problem is that noone regulates these landlords - anyone can buy a house and rent it out in any condition!

If these licences come into force then that will filter out all the bad landlords!

As I have said before Landlords are expected to do gas safety checks (which they dont charge the tenant for) - and they all do gas safety checks
They should be expected to do electrical safety checks!

 

[oldtimer]

I normally bring my partner with me to do them - due to her condition (not going into it!)
Normal time for 1 person is 5 mins per item - it Im testing and she is sticking and writing then less than 2.5mins each item.

We are not all sticker men!

All customers get a certificate which shows the IR reading and the Earth Connectivity reading. Any questions I will show you a copy of one oldtimer.

Nicholas its your choice to use your partner but thats not a business model that would work for me as you seem to be doing it as a loss leader to get the EICR but to be honest the only person who benefits is the customer Me I charge for both and the customer expects to pay for both

 

[jon small]

as i recall it took 1 death to cause the whole knee jerk part p scam, when the bodies start piling up from poor quality cut price testing how long before the government decide that we are incapable of regulating ourselves and must be regulated and licensed (more expense and bureaucracy for us to cope with) by a government department or worse an eu quango.

 

[oldtimer]

as i recall it took 1 death to cause the whole knee jerk part p scam, when the bodies start piling up from poor quality cut price testing how long before the government decide that we are incapable of regulating ourselves and must be regulated and licensed (more expense and bureaucracy for us to cope with) by a government department or worse an eu quango.

Sorry I cannot agree with this my view is that the MPs daughters death was used as a vehicle for Part P and the Scams call me cynical but this is politics and we do get manipulated most of the time ie "Save the British Banger from Europe" campaign was designed to get peoples backs up over Europe but they did not report that they had no intention of getting rid of local dishes as a guy once said to me when you see any campaign follow the money ie the ones who will benefit most from the changes

 

[Welchyboy]

(null)

Mate you need to seriously think about your pricing, 50 pat tested items plus paperwork, with two people for FREE?!


You won't be around long at that rate!

 

[Octopus]

Mate you need to seriously think about your pricing, 50 pat tested items plus paperwork, with two people for FREE?!


You won't be around long at that rate!

When I see things like this my suspicious mind thinks:

1. Cutting corners

2. Employing cheap labour

3. Not all inclome declared

4. Income being kept low so that they can benefit from tax credit handouts/general benefits!

 

[D80]

Call me old fashioned but if I do the work I'd be wanting paid for it. These landlords don't hand out rent free weeks for tenants in the hope of keeping them longer.

If 50 takes 2 hours takes 2 hours complete with paperwork it's 2 hours for free that could have been spent elsewhere earning. And just because landlords say they will have you back for the next few years doesn't mean they will!

 

[Spazz]

You are right Murdoch - I do have to keep my income low for a personal reason which I am not going into on this forum!

Some people on here know why and thats how its staying.

I do this to keep work coming in and keep profits low for the above reason.

After December situation changes and I wont be doing this offer anymore!

 

[oldtimer]

So if you are a carer you are in the wrong job plus doing jobs for next to nothing does not add up for me plus I dont want to know your business Nicholas but would it not be better for you not to comment on these types of posts

 

[Spazz]

I comment on these posts to help others - some on here are just here to have a bitch!

We are all in the same game here!

 

[oldtimer]

I comment on these posts to help others - some on here are just here to have a bitch!

We are all in the same game here!

Its not a bitch I am just trying to be constructive but at the same time I stand by my comment

 

[Marvo]

By all means discuss the business model but please avoid comments of a personal nature, rather just agree to disagree.

Thanks.

 

[jon small]

We are all in the same game here!

so why undercut others so much and force prices down? it makes customers think those who charge a sensible price are rip off merchants!

 

[Swicade]

I realy dont see what the great issue is with what Nick is doing with the '50 items PAT free' offer tbh.

Maybe i'm looking at it different to most who have replied BUT if he's doing the EICR at a price that'll be around twice that of 'Dave from the pub' and it's a proper test (as i'd assume it is) then alls good and alot safer for the tennant. True the PAT testing is free but so what.....2-3 hours of unpaid work compaired to loosing a day of paid work (due to gaining the EICR) cant be that bad a deal can it?

Wouldn't do it meself but only because i passionately hate PAT testing but it's no different to gaining a re-wire or remedials if i offered to throw in smoke detectors for free or any similar type of offer.

To look at it another way how many people get suckered in to buying something when out shopping or on the internet because they get something free with it?....same principle and it's the way shops work and stay in business these days...give alittle free to get the bigger £££££

 

[SYKRAPS]

At £3 a circuit they must be relying on finding alot of C1's and getting the repairs surely...........extras...extras...

I charge £100 for upto and including the 1st 4 circuits then £15 per circuit on top