just looked on a price comparison site (whatprice.co.uk) by accident and found prices for eicr testing from around the country - couldn,t believe a sole trader in sunderland offering to test up-to 3 bed house for £65 all in ( reckons 2.5 hours to fully test and do paperwork ) and telling people that firms charging more are extortionate rip off merchants, surprised to find others charging £75 - £90 with pricing like this no wonder it's getting difficult to earn a reasonable living.
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Octopus
The EICR wouldn't be worth the paper its written on IMHO.
Priced doing an EICR for the local council
Civil amenity sites, theatres, offices, their was well in excess of three thousand circuits, we didn't get the contact as we were to expensive, the contractor they went with priced it at £3 a circuit
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Civil amenity sites, theatres, offices, their was well in excess of three thousand circuits, we didn't get the contact as we were to expensive, the contractor they went with priced it at £3 a circuit
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hillbillie
Unfortunately, most EICRs are done because the customer is obliged to have it done by insurers, the council etc and they have no real interest in the results or safety; they just want a piece of paper.
Consequently, a cheap quick EICR doing 20%, or full of 'limitations' instead of a proper insulation resistance test on circuits that need a lot of things removed will win.
I get a few EICRs a month and I always feel I have to underquote to get the job.
Consequently, a cheap quick EICR doing 20%, or full of 'limitations' instead of a proper insulation resistance test on circuits that need a lot of things removed will win.
I get a few EICRs a month and I always feel I have to underquote to get the job.
I recently have had a few letting agents call up and ask how much i charge for an average 3 bed semi, told them £150 and got the "ok then we'll be in touch if we need you" I knew instantly i wasn't getting the job because i know some people just go and poke their nose in the CU and write up a load of ******** and charge less than half that. but recently did manage to win 4 tests for a private LL, and although he was reluctant to pay my price he agreed, and then had no trouble handing over payment when i pulled them to peices, showed him several C1's on each property, and proved it had never been properly tested before despite his previous certs which were just a waste of money. and once he saw me there for the best part of a day on each one he realised the previous lot were not doing it right.
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D80
Never had much of an issue losing work to the those who do cheap EICR's. They give it a satisfactory and need to do plenty a day (at £3 a circuit a mountain needed a day!). 1 for me is a days work plus generally all the remedial works after that and a peaceful nights sleep after it does for me.
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EICR has to be taken seriously and done right or it is worthless. A 3 bed semi is at least 5 hours work and an hour writing, preparing and posting certificate etc., has to be full days pay, at around £150 , I would not do one for less, it is just not worth it. I have had several letting agents pass because they can get a cert for £65 quick check. They can keep it !!!
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Spazz
My local housing association put a tender out in June for EICRs and quoted the set price of £40 per property. (does not matter size of property or number of circuits). They where offering 330 houses per year mind (guaranteed) and 100 CU changes - not sure how one person could do that in 1 year mind - would have to take on a second person.
My normal rate is £20 per circuit.
For landlords I offer free PAT testing for upto 50 items - thinking that EICR is every 5 years and PAT is every year so they are likely to come back year after year.
My normal rate is £20 per circuit.
For landlords I offer free PAT testing for upto 50 items - thinking that EICR is every 5 years and PAT is every year so they are likely to come back year after year.
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Octopus
Re the EICR - so they don't want a proper test then?
Re the PAT testing - are you running a business or a charity?
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Spazz
Not a clue!
I do this based on 50 items takes about 2hrs to do, f I do a 8 circuit property then I get £160.00 - these landlords that I do this with use me all the time for anything and everything from replacing light bulbs to CU changes and rewires.
It works well and for new landlords it has the tipping point if they use me or Job Blogs from the pub - which there are a few around here - dont forget you dont need any qualifications or registration to do EICRs
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sparks1973
aye...it`l be a bit of visual....maybe a global IR and a quick Zs here n there....lol....
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trev
So you pay this bloke £65 which for 2.5 hours work is a realistic hourly rate, but he is doing drive bys so what is the point.
He must be hoping to get remedials to make money, some of which he'll probably make up
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"couldn,t believe a sole trader in sunderland offering to test up-to 3 bed house for £65 all in "
I'm half an hour away in hartlepool and find it difficult to charge over £80 for an EICR (whether its a 2 up 2 down or a five bedroom detached house). I do tend to make things up to a worthwhile wage when I complete any remedial works- although obviously it isn't guaranteed there are any.
I recently lost work for the last letting agent I worked for as they phoned me up and said they had found an electrician who would work for £15 an hour flat rate plus itemised materials (no allowance for fuel etc?). They said they still wanted me to do the work as I had been reliable in the past, so if I matched the price it wouldn't be a problem. I said I would go no lower than £18 an hour & 40p/mile if out of town. I never heard from them again!
In the last few month the van has broken down multiple times, costing a fortune not just in repairs but in lost income, and all this month my road tax, van insurance, scheme & trustmark membership & PL/PI insurance have ran out and have to be renewed. Direct debits this year!
I'm half an hour away in hartlepool and find it difficult to charge over £80 for an EICR (whether its a 2 up 2 down or a five bedroom detached house). I do tend to make things up to a worthwhile wage when I complete any remedial works- although obviously it isn't guaranteed there are any.
I recently lost work for the last letting agent I worked for as they phoned me up and said they had found an electrician who would work for £15 an hour flat rate plus itemised materials (no allowance for fuel etc?). They said they still wanted me to do the work as I had been reliable in the past, so if I matched the price it wouldn't be a problem. I said I would go no lower than £18 an hour & 40p/mile if out of town. I never heard from them again!
In the last few month the van has broken down multiple times, costing a fortune not just in repairs but in lost income, and all this month my road tax, van insurance, scheme & trustmark membership & PL/PI insurance have ran out and have to be renewed. Direct debits this year!
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Spazz
They pay £20 per circuit and it includes a free PAT test for 50 items.
The EICR they must pay for!
Normally £2 per item.
The reason I give them free like I said is the pushing point to get the job - its not advertised - if they are like we will let you know then I send them a written quote which states if taken out within 30 days of this quote - it includes free PAT testing upto £50 items.
I have done 3 of these already now (offer only been running just over a month) and the 3 have booked for PAT testing for the next 4 years as well. Plus they got me to repair all faults I found there and then as well as any damaged equipment they paid for.
Normally my PAT testing includes replacement fuses and plugs where needed (max of 5 per 50 items) but not on this offer.
The last one I did turned into over £700 worth of work - not bad when they where looking elsewhere.
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Spazz
I normally bring my partner with me to do them - due to her condition (not going into it!)
Normal time for 1 person is 5 mins per item - it Im testing and she is sticking and writing then less than 2.5mins each item.
We are not all sticker men!
All customers get a certificate which shows the IR reading and the Earth Connectivity reading. Any questions I will show you a copy of one oldtimer.
Normal time for 1 person is 5 mins per item - it Im testing and she is sticking and writing then less than 2.5mins each item.
We are not all sticker men!
All customers get a certificate which shows the IR reading and the Earth Connectivity reading. Any questions I will show you a copy of one oldtimer.
in a nutshell we are all struggling to make a decent living because many are trying to undercut the rest and allowing the customer dictate pricing to the detriment of safety which is the whole POINT of testing.
why as a trade are we allowing this to happen?, if we can't make a living many will give up and leave the testing to the cut price cowboys resulting in potentially avoidable deaths and shaming us all as a trade!
somehow we have to get landlords and the public to understand that they need to pay a reasonable price to ensure safety through proper testing not just thinking i got a cheap test certificate so everything s fine- remember when it was easy to get a dodgy mot for the car the number of death traps that were on the road and the massive regulation of the mot industry that has resulted - every test result now held on a massive database every aspect of the test tightened up =massive improvement in safety but much higher cost to customer and the cost of test set by governing body, i don't know but maybe this is what our trade needs to regain professional standards to ensure that testing is done correctly to a minimum standard to keep people safe
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Spazz
The problem with some landlords is that they just dont care!
We see it again and again on here - my landlord wont repair this!
my landlord popped over himself and repaired this!
my landlord got someone in to do half a job and wont get them back!
The problem is that noone regulates these landlords - anyone can buy a house and rent it out in any condition!
If these licences come into force then that will filter out all the bad landlords!
As I have said before Landlords are expected to do gas safety checks (which they dont charge the tenant for) - and they all do gas safety checks
They should be expected to do electrical safety checks!
We see it again and again on here - my landlord wont repair this!
my landlord popped over himself and repaired this!
my landlord got someone in to do half a job and wont get them back!
The problem is that noone regulates these landlords - anyone can buy a house and rent it out in any condition!
If these licences come into force then that will filter out all the bad landlords!
As I have said before Landlords are expected to do gas safety checks (which they dont charge the tenant for) - and they all do gas safety checks
They should be expected to do electrical safety checks!
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oldtimer
Nicholas its your choice to use your partner but thats not a business model that would work for me as you seem to be doing it as a loss leader to get the EICR but to be honest the only person who benefits is the customer Me I charge for both and the customer expects to pay for both
as i recall it took 1 death to cause the whole knee jerk part p scam, when the bodies start piling up from poor quality cut price testing how long before the government decide that we are incapable of regulating ourselves and must be regulated and licensed (more expense and bureaucracy for us to cope with) by a government department or worse an eu quango.
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oldtimer
Sorry I cannot agree with this my view is that the MPs daughters death was used as a vehicle for Part P and the Scams call me cynical but this is politics and we do get manipulated most of the time ie "Save the British Banger from Europe" campaign was designed to get peoples backs up over Europe but they did not report that they had no intention of getting rid of local dishes as a guy once said to me when you see any campaign follow the money ie the ones who will benefit most from the changes
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Welchyboy
Mate you need to seriously think about your pricing, 50 pat tested items plus paperwork, with two people for FREE?!
You won't be around long at that rate!
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