European Sockets

[Guest111]

phil. what day we going to elex? friday is best for me.

I'm going on Thursday,but might pop up Friday as well.

 

[Guest111]

phil. what day we going to elex? friday is best for me.

I'm going on Thursday,but might pop up Friday as well.tried ringing you just but you weren't answering.lol

 

[Engineer54]

for me selling adaptors would be the way to go,putting in any form of foreign socket is bound to lead to some doughnut plugging in something that runs off a different voltage then saying they thought the sockets were 110v or something daft.

These are probably the best style to go for....
Schuko to UK Mains Adapter 13A | Maplin

Though where they get costing over 6 quid each for them i don't know.... I know for a fact they cost around 1.50 / 160 Euros each in Cyprus, so someones making a real mark, if that's the general cost of these adaptors in the UK!!!

 

[Guest111]

These are probably the best style to go for....
Schuko to UK Mains Adapter 13A | Maplin

Though where they get costing over 6 quid each for them i don't know.... I know for a fact they cost around 1.50 / 160 Euros each in Cyprus, so someones making a real mark, if that's the general cost of these adaptors in the UK!!!

Maplins are just robbers,A phono plug in maplin is about a quid,they are about a quid for 10 at cpc.lol

 

[BlueToBits]

My 10p's worth: I've just had a look at reg 553.1. It appears that the BS1363 13A socket is cited as a preferred outlet. Providing certain requirements are met, such as shutters, and prevention of contact with live parts while inserting the plug, the use of other outlets is not precluded where it is necessary to distinguish the function of the circuit, or prevent danger. In this example it would seem reasonable to have a circuit distinguished for the use of European appliances. Danger could arise with the use of adaptors, none of which carry BS certification, and it would alleviate the very significant risk of danger should a visitor try to force the 2 live pins of European plug into a UK socket. It is possible to get a connection by doing so. Providing the level of protection afforded for the particular type of socket is the same as it's native country, and that level also meets UK requirements, I can't see why it would not be permitted and beneficial to do this. We commonly see non-standard BS1363 sockets in UK homes for lighting, freezers, outdoor supplies etc. The 2A, 5A, 15A, IEC, figure of 8 etc are not BS1363 sockets either.

 

[Engineer54]

My old dear has just got a place in Spain to rent out to holiday makers. Can anyone advise on where I can download Spanish regs (for free) as she wants British socket outlets next to the Spanish ones in bedrooms and livingroom for people with iPods hairdryers straighteners etc
Or does anyone know if its just an outright no. I've seen it before when I lived in Spain (before I trained as an electrician) but not sure if it was kosher!

To be honest if it was my property, and i was catering for British holidaymakers, i would just install the supplementary BS1363 sockets, kosher or no kosher!! lol!! Provided of course that all such circuits criteria were suitable for the inclusion of the supplementary BS outlets...

 

[amckay]

My old dear has just got a place in Spain to rent out to holiday makers. Can anyone advise on where I can download Spanish regs (for free) as she wants British socket outlets next to the Spanish ones in bedrooms and livingroom for people with iPods hairdryers straighteners etc
Or does anyone know if its just an outright no. I've seen it before when I lived in Spain (before I trained as an electrician) but not sure if it was kosher!

To be honest if it was my property, and i was catering for British holidaymakers, i would just install the supplementary BS1363 sockets, kosher or no kosher!! lol!! Provided of course that all such circuits criteria were suitable for the inclusion of the supplementary BS outlets...

Fair enough eng. I don't think Spain has an earthing system do they? Will have to slap a few rods in and TT it

 

[mayfair]

You cannot and i repeat cannot install Uk sockets.

 

[amckay]

You cannot and i repeat cannot install Uk sockets.

I believe your just the man for Spanish installs. I'll take that on board Mayfair. Do you know where I can get a copy/download Spanish regs?

 

[telectrix]

i did know, but we sunk them in 1588.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I believe your just the man for Spanish installs. I'll take that on board Mayfair. Do you know where I can get a copy/download Spanish regs?

Knowing how unintelligible our regs are at times, imagine the potential unreadability of the Spanish version, written in Spanish?!
Unless you're fluent in Spanish of course.

 

[amckay]

I believe your just the man for Spanish installs. I'll take that on board Mayfair. Do you know where I can get a copy/download Spanish regs?

Knowing how unintelligible our regs are at times, imagine the potential unreadability of the Spanish version, written in Spanish?!
Unless you're fluent in Spanish of course.

I'm nowhere near fluent but can tell bits and bobs. I get what you mean tho, it must be a real headache for expat sparks!

 

[mayfair]

Google itc bt 25 thats basic domestic regs you can look at all the other BT regs but it gets a bit deep.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I'll look into earthed "Schukos" with DP switches but Sintra might be onto something with the buying in bulk & selling idea. Least then she'd be covered should something go wrong!

Aye, could add a nice little mark-up on the price too. Should help pay for the towels they nick.

 

[Engineer54]

You cannot and i repeat cannot install Uk sockets.

Who is going to stop you?? Let's face it, you are just adding a supplementary BS socket outlet in bedrooms to accommodate holidaymakers small personal appliances. If Cyprus had not used the BS outlet as it's national standard, i'd have almost certainly done the same thing in the small rental property we have, that we primarily rent out to British holidaymakers....

Bit different if you changed every socket outlet in the property to the BS 1363 system and then tried selling the property on the open Spanish market.

 

[Engineer54]

Fair enough eng. I don't think Spain has an earthing system do they? Will have to slap a few rods in and TT it

Spain like many other European/Mediterranean countries uses both PME and TT and even TN-S earthing systems, but mainly it is TT and PME and can be dependant where you are. (eg, ... rural, or town/city)