is PV worth it - 9 panels facing west

[Danlow84]

I bull you not if they know how much you normally spend on your electric bills and they know what size system best suits you they could and should give you facts and figures to the penny and also the exact time period for your return on investment and dont be put off by your age i know people in there 80s that still buy panel systems.were are you based yourself?also yes the thermodynamics systems we use run off the atmosphere in any temperature down to -15degrees so works all year long to provide people with constant hot water and also only one panel needed.

 

[zeljuga]

Space shutle in black .It ments runs out of Earth atmosphare to infinity.

 

[Danlow84]

I can assure you they run of atmosphere they extract the heat from atmosphere day and night 1panel can provide a family of 4for hot water all year round.check out our website solarstyleuk.com or inbox me for a further chat

 

[FB.]

I bull you not if they know how much you normally spend on your electric bills and they know what size system best suits you they could and should give you facts and figures to the penny and also the exact time period for your return on investment

Exact amounts are not possible - not least because we don't know what the price of electricity will be in five years time, nor do we know what inflation will turn out to be, from which the FiT rats are annually adjusted.
Also my electricty usage habits will change over the years.

We can make a guess, but the further out the guess the more prone to random variation it will be, and, most likely, in 25 years time we can all look back and laugh at just how inaccurate some of the projected rates of return turned out to be.

My post #4 on this topic is probably a realistic and unbiased estimate, based on observations from my solar array and the arrays of many others (I am not in the business of selling solar so I can "tell it like I see it").

 

[Danlow84]

True in regards to rising energy bills but a sap calculation will give you accurate figures at current rates but all it means if energy bills rise again it just means the more money you would save and with the pv panels some people have even noticed them working off moonlight

 

[SolarCity]

True in regards to rising energy bills but a sap calculation will give you accurate figures at current rates but all it means if energy bills rise again it just means the more money you would save and with the pv panels some people have even noticed them working off moonlight

Moonlight? If this is true then I'll eat my own jaw and post a video of it on YouTube.

 

[Danlow84]

It all depends if its a full moon and posistion of moon as pv panels run off light not just sunlight so if moonlight strong enough it works and this isnt a fact we use to sell them this is what we have been told by customers who already have them fitted.

 

[SolarCity]

The only way I can even consider a system running off moonlight is if there was a huge amount of panels on a very small inverter - which would, of course, be pointless.

My offer of self-cannibalism remains.

 

[Danlow84]

Im not saying it works well but it does generate something.but the thermo dynamics do work very well in either day or nite

 

[SolarCity]

I've no doubt some photons are actually reacting with the panels and producing a tiny amount of potential energy but it needs to produce a certain voltage high enough to kick the inverter into life which is surely unlikely in moonlight?

 

[Danlow84]

As i said we dnt mention it in sales pitch its just what we have been told by our existing customers

 

[FB.]

Moonlight? If this is true then I'll eat my own jaw and post a video of it on YouTube.

The sparky who did mine said that especially during the late-2011 rush, he sometimes had to continue working after dark, and that in moonlight there is a trace of electricity flowing from the panels (as you'd expect; any light on the panels counts), but, of course, it's far too little light and electricity to meet the startup requirement for the inverter.

My inverter goes to sleep at dusk and no matter how big or bright the moon, it has never powered-up, nor even flickered its status LED's as it does when the power-up sequence begins at dawn.

 

[SolarCity]

Yeah, and I'd imagine that the difference in terms of light reading between dusk and a nice bright full moon is pretty much colossal.

 

[Danlow84]

The people i spoke to said obviously it wasnt enough to shout about but it generated some electric and then obviously some income from fit

 

[SolarCity]

Fair enough that you don't mention it in your sales pitch but believe me, there are sales people all over the country that will use it in in theirs. And reading about it on a forum like this is all the information they need to back up this claim.

 

[Danlow84]

Well we are a very reputable company and with our surveys we dont send any kind of salesperson we send a qualified surveyor and if it aint guna benefit people we will tell them it wont benefit them

 

[FB.]

The people i spoke to said obviously it wasnt enough to shout about but it generated some electric and then obviously some income from fit

Any generation during moonlight - if any; mine have never powered-up at night - would be so tiny as to not be worthy of factoring into account. More significant would be factoring in the effect of bird poo impairing panel performance during daylight.
So before counting the number of full moons, I'd count the number of sparrows, starlings, blackbirds, doves and pigeons who use your panels to practice their aim when there's no washing on the line.

 

[SolarRoofSols]

The people i spoke to said obviously it wasnt enough to shout about but it generated some electric and then obviously some income from fit

If it aint enough to kick start the inverter then there is nothing going to the generation meter, therefore no fit benefit. be careful about making claims like this without any hard evidence (i.e. seeing it for yourself). If you have seen it yourself, then we want to know what panels and inverter you are using!

 

[Danlow84]

As i said it isnt something we claim as a company its just what our customers have told us in feedback