News article - electrocution

[DPG]

BBC News - Dr James Kew: Runner died after touching cable

 

[Pete999]

If the power company knew of the damaged cable then they should have isolated it, hope the HSE throw the book at them.

 

[DPG]

Yes, does seem a bit strange - I thought they would have had it isolated straight away. Be some office type going through the proper channels with 10 forms in triplicate! Daz

 

[Engineer54]

How come it's taken so long for the inquest into this guy's death?? No mention of any action against the supplier or it's policies. Typical!!

 

[snowhead]

If the power company knew of the damaged cable then they should have isolated it, hope the HSE throw the book at them.

There could instead have been a newspaper report of "Power company isolated power to 250,000 homes just on a single report from a member of the public"

 

[snowhead]

Yes, does seem a bit strange - I thought they would have had it isolated straight away. Be some office type going through the proper channels with 10 forms in triplicate! Daz

The policy is stated, Isolation only after an Technician's inspection, see my post above.

 

[DPG]

There could instead have been a newspaper report of "Power company isolated power to 250,000 homes just on a single report from a member of the public"

Yeah good point there. Better to have one person dead than some home without power. Right o. Daz

 

[UNG]

How come it's taken so long for the inquest into this guy's death?? No mention of any action against the supplier or it's policies. Typical!!

Not that long for a inquest to take place some can take many years for all the investigations to be done and evidence gathered

 

[telectrix]

makes me wonder how a doctor ( supposedly intelligent ) should be in contact with the cable after a good samaritan had put sticks and a warning sign there.

 

[snowhead]

Yeah good point there. Better to have one person dead than some home without power. Right o. Daz

And how many people on home dialysis machines dead, or stuck half way up stairs at home on lifts or stuck in office blocks in lifts.

I doubt dumping the load on a main feeder is as simple as turning a switch, they'd have to shed generation as well.
Then restoring the supply is also not instant.

 

[DPG]

Surely they should have had a team out there pretty sharpish though. If nothing else they could have put a proper barrier up rather than a few sticks. Plus critical medical stuff should be on a UPS any way. Daz

 

[mechelec]

Surely they should have had a team out there pretty sharpish though. If nothing else they could have put a proper barrier up rather than a few sticks. Plus critical medical stuff should be on a UPS any way. Daz

If you read the article it states it was 14 minutes from the member of public reporting it and the poor guy running into it. I can't imagine anyone getting to site in under 14 minutes. Don't just blame the DNO they are landed with massive fines and penalties from OFGEM for customer minutes lost. Dropping feeders on the call of a member of public would open them up to prank calls as well.

 

[Knobhead]

The man behaved like an idiot.

Look up operation of MV OH systems. He was a mere inconvenience to the system, as is a tree.

No you can’t go out and check every inch of an OH line for one E/F fail. If it wasn’t for equipment like “Auto Re-closers” Nearly every village in the UK would be without power for 10% of the time.

 

[DPG]

If you read the article it states it was 14 minutes from the member of public reporting it and the poor guy running into it. I can't imagine anyone getting to site in under 14 minutes. Don't just blame the DNO they are landed with massive fines and penalties from OFGEM for customer minutes lost. Dropping feeders on the call of a member of public would open them up to prank calls as well.

Fair points. Daz

 

[Geordie Spark]

makes me wonder how a doctor ( supposedly intelligent ) should be in contact with the cable after a good samaritan had put sticks and a warning sign there.

After what I've been through these past three months with damned doctors it doesn't surprise me and frankly I can think of a couple more who should be electrocuted !! :32:

 

[tidyboiler]

After what I've been through these past three months with damned doctors it doesn't surprise me and frankly I can think of a couple more who should be electrocuted !! :32:

Don't you mean 3?

 

[Geordie Spark]

Well I'm back at the horsepickle again tomorrow - after spending most of today there - for some more poking prodding and testing.

I'm thinking of taking my trusty MFT with me and see if I can persuade them to let me do some tests on them. .. IR should be a good one.

 

[Silly Sausage]

The man behaved like an idiot.

WTF that's supposed to mean, I don't know.

Anyway, if you look at the original video footage, the cable in question could well be easily missed.

 

[Engineer54]

If you read the article it states it was 14 minutes from the member of public reporting it and the poor guy running into it. I can't imagine anyone getting to site in under 14 minutes. Don't just blame the DNO they are landed with massive fines and penalties from OFGEM for customer minutes lost. Dropping feeders on the call of a member of public would open them up to prank calls as well.

Agree with what you have pointed out above, but what do you make of this statement by UK Power Networks....??

Earlier in the hearing, UK Power Networks said it had since changed its policy of only isolating a line once a technician had inspected it.

 

[Badged01]

.... for some more poking prodding and testing.

As long as she was blonde, leggy and with big babylons whats the problem

 

[Guest111]

If it had been me that called it in I'd have called the emergency services as well,and stayed there until someone arrived,several years at ago I saw a 33kv oh come down at the side of the road near where I live,one phase was still live and it was arcing everywhere.The first call I put in after closing the road was to request police and fire service,I then placed a call to networks and spoke to the duty engineer,after appraising him of the situation,he spoke to the fire chief and asked what measures I had requested be put in place,informed of the road closure he seemed quite happy and then asked if I would remain at the incident until his team arrived in case any further info was needed,which I was quite happy to do.The networks crew arrived several hours later, at about 3 am! Still it was new years eve and I had nothing better to do.Some people say I need to get out more,that night my wife said I should have stayed In lol.

 

[Badged01]

Sounds like you had your own personal firework display on New Years eve!

 

[Guest111]

Sounds like you had your own personal firework display on New Years eve!

I'd just picked mt 19 year old daughter up from a night out,which she hadn't really enjoyed,however when a pump load of firefighters arrived her night got a lot better,funny how women have a thing for firemen.lol

 

[mechelec]

Agree with what you have pointed out above, but what do you make of this statement by UK Power Networks....??

i would be interested to know what the policy is now. I for one would not be happy if my supply was off for an hour whilst a technician was despatched to site to find it was a malicious call.
If a line is on the floor the breaker will normally trip on SEF and inhibit the auto reclose. It looks like this line was just very low. Unfortunate freak accident.

Good point raised about calling emergency services. They will at least keep everyone clear. I guess the guy who just put a few sticks up feels like he should have done more.

If your numbers up its up.