Problem on job with bungalow

[axel132132]

Hi

I have an issue at a bungalow im working at, there is a fault

All the sockets are on a ring, when i plug something in the living room it trips the RCD plug it into any other sockets it dosent trip the RCD

The board is MAIN SWITCH RCD

Cheers

 

[stanleyblade]

Must of read it wrong, where it says change your old downlighters for fire rated ones and we will ISSUE you with a fire safety downlighter certificate. If I was customer I would read that as you issuing a cert of some kind, not a bit of paper out of the box . But thanx for reply, good luck

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[Strima]

Comes with the downlighters i will install to say they are guaranteed fireproof JCE or something cant remember the make there from screwfix - 10 for like 58 quid cant remember check them out (Elecfix maybe)

Be very careful of what you promise. If you state anywhere that you issue a safety certificate for equipment you become liable for it, even if you're issuing the manufacturers one. It's a legal minefield that people will use to get out of paying up for faulty equipment. Basically you need to state that all equipment is installed in accordance with manufacturers instructions and any claims are to be made against the manufacturer in case of fault be design or construction, statutory rights are not affected blah blah blah...

 

[axel132132]

Cheers strima this is why i put site up before i get started so i can sort any issues out before i launch! Thanks

 

[Strima]

Have you had a legal bod look over your companies terms and conditions? It's worth the money, especially when it comes to bigger jobs such as rewires.

 

[hasel5]

Why is he a member of the arms ?

 

[richy3333]

Why is he a member of the arms ?

Here, here and why hasn't he been banned for openly admitting to advertising as an NICEIC contractor when he then admits to not being? Clearly brings the forum and the industry into disrepute?

And for what it's worth if you want to attract electrical business, do a good job. The promises of Ipads and other freebies are irrelvant. Get a good name as someone that does a good job for a reasonable price and people will keep asking you back to do more work, or recommend you. Start out lying (claims of being and NICEIC member), offering non-exisitant certificates and generally ****ing people off on this website and it will be a bumpy road for you.

BTW what are you doing next week... MIET by any chance?

 

[MKS]

Is your name Walter Mitty, perchance? lol

 

[Octopus]

At 22 you have an enormous amount to learn about running a successful business, let alone the ins and outs of being an electrical contractor, maintaining and fault finding on kit that may be up to 50+ years old.

 

[Guest55]

The NICEIC have a place for you... it's called the 'wall of shame'.

The NIC wall of shame isnt anywhere near as big as it should be lol.

Edit : i'd be interested to know how many contractors they've kicked off their books.
i'm guessing the number is in single digits ;-D

 

[Guitarist]

At 22 you have an enormous amount to learn about running a successful business, let alone the ins and outs of being an electrical contractor, maintaining and fault finding on kit that may be up to 50+ years old.

That was really my point a few posts back. The sheer enormity of the domestic, commercial and industrial services on offer are just mind-blowing for someone who's never even run a business, especially at 22 years old.
Still, as he says...."

Guess ive just got around the industry lol done everything from domestic to commercial to industrial", so he has some guts that's for sure.


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[spark 68]

Guess ive just got around the industry lol done everything from domestic to commercial to industrial", so he has some guts that's for sure.

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He is offering all that on his website Guitarist, and then on the very first post of this thread is asking for advice on a RFC RCD tripping fault that any half decent spark would have found, or at least narrowed down in minutes, and would not have even asked about.
Sorry I don't normally post negative comments, but in view of the 'Niciec episode' this just has chancer written all over it.

I understand the OP is young and just starting out, but as others have said you have to learn to walk before you can run.

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[Guest55]

He sounds like one of those types of guys who likes to have Managing Director on his buisness card even though
he's a sole operator lol.

Hmmm , gives me an idea , vice president of biff industries has a nice ring to it :-D

 

[Guitarist]

He sounds like one of those types of guys who likes to have Managing Director on his buisness card even though
he's a sole operator lol.

Hmmm , gives me an idea , vice president of biff industries has a nice ring to it :-D

Back to the future you go my boy....

 

[Guitarist]

He is offering all that on his website Guitarist, and then on the very first post of this thread is asking for advice on a RFC RCD tripping fault that any half decent spark would have found, or at least narrowed down in minutes, and would not have even asked about.
Sorry I don't normally post negative comments, but in view of the 'Niciec episode' this just has chancer written all over it.

I understand the OP is young and just starting out, but as others have said you have to learn to walk before you can run.



[/LEFT]

Exactly. There's another old saying he needs to remember... Pride comes before a fall.

 

[telectrix]

He sounds like one of those types of guys who likes to have Managing Director on his buisness card even though
he's a sole operator lol.

Hmmm , gives me an idea , vice president of biff industries has a nice ring to it :-D

president .. wily coyote. VP... roadrunner. would this be acme electrical industries by any chance?

 

[axel132132]

About the op, we had an idea what it was my gfs sisters bf came home and asked if any ideas we went through everything on here before i posted and just posted to see if theres owt we missed.. Which we hadnt =) i wouldnt take on any job i couldnt handle, i would sub out! Im 22 and trying at least im doing something rather than the other 1,000,000 18-23 year olds who are just on the dole sat about claiming benefits, houses and having children to get more money... Im trying hard, learning alot thanks to this site and hopefully can be successful all this slating is just getting me down making me think maybe i cnt do this mayve i cnt run my own and shud stay on dole untill i gt a job... Which in this climate would be forever...

Im trying hard.. And sorry if i upset or offend anyone on the way i just appreciafe the help people are giving me

 

[axel132132]

Before people post about "were you get the 1,000,000 figure" it was just a guess ive no idea

 

[spark 68]

Alright Axel,

Let's reset.

Nobody is criticising you for wanting to better yourself, as we all do.
If you had been upfront from the outset you would have received a completely different response, and probably a lot more constructive help, including help with your website.

What has got peoples backs up, is that you naively (on the website) advertised something that clearly wasn't true, which is at best stupid, or at worst fraudulent.
You can't kid the sparks on here, as we have seen it all before, and chancers, diyer's etc. are seen through fairly quickly, now Iam not suggesting you are either of these, but you are not what you claimed either, and once you have lost peoples trust it is very difficult to get back.
None of us like 'Blaggers'.
A lot of us have been in the trade longer than you have been alive, and we are still learning, a lot of us have paid fortunes and a lot of time and effort to get the qualifications and experience, including a lot of people offering to work for free to get experience, so if some have perceived you to be blagging it I hope you can understand how they feel and how annoyed they get.

Now Iam prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, and put it down to naivety, overenthusiasm and your age.

On another thread on here, there is a discussion of a dubious website scaremongering and the like, and the more honest and experienced posters on here take a dim view of this, as it tars us all with the same brush, I hope you can see it from our side.

 

[MKS]

Don't beat yourself up mate, some of this ribbing will bode well for your future endeavours! However, you have come across a little naive and that you'll need to address! People on here will honestly help but they won't help when you come across as Flash Harry. Try not to let it get you down and a lesson learned is one you should not need to learn again! Good luck

 

[Guitarist]

About the op, we had an idea what it was my gfs sisters bf came home and asked if any ideas we went through everything on here before i posted and just posted to see if theres owt we missed.. Which we hadnt =) i wouldnt take on any job i couldnt handle, i would sub out! Im 22 and trying at least im doing something rather than the other 1,000,000 18-23 year olds who are just on the dole sat about claiming benefits, houses and having children to get more money... Im trying hard, learning alot thanks to this site and hopefully can be successful all this slating is just getting me down making me think maybe i cnt do this mayve i cnt run my own and shud stay on dole untill i gt a job... Which in this climate would be forever...

Im trying hard.. And sorry if i upset or offend anyone on the way i just appreciafe the help people are giving me

I think spark 68 summed it all up nicely. We will help fellow electricians who need support and DIY'ers who want advice, but we get sick to the back teeth of people who come on here thinking they have re-invented the wheel. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours, just keep them realistic.

I will finish with the words of a sign that hung in the workshop when I was in industry...

"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying those of us who do".