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KMy house, my opinion. And yes, I would notice.
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KMy house, my opinion. And yes, I would notice.
KMy house, my opinion. And yes, I would notice.
But Part M says extensions can be in keeping with existing installations ...............
To be honest I cannot find any words to that effect in Part M?
But I can see that it does say, for limits of application of M4(1) that it does NOT apply to extensions.
So I'll happily concede that you and others are correct about not having to comply.
So the Electricians Guide is incorrect, which is disappointing, seeing as I purchased it to try and get some clarity, rather than be misled.
All this said though, there are still instances where I would recommend to the customer that switches and sockets are between 450mm and 1200mm, but I guess, ultimately, and within reason, they can have them at whatever height they want.
It's good to talk.
The OP question in the beginning was about a complete rewire. Every circuit and CCU will be changed. We are talking about the whole electrical installation changing, not just a few sockets in an extention or alteration. Constitutes a new electrical installation requiring a clean EIC.
but you could argue that if everything after the meter is new, as in a total rewire, then it's a "new installation".I've given you a disagree because the EIC would say its an "alteration" - only a new build should really warrant a "new" status
Put your hand on your heart and repeat after me "I being the person responsible for the design, construction and inspection and testing of the electrical installation...A rewire is a new installation and not an alteration to an existing installation. End of story.
compliance or otherwise with Part M of the statutory building regs is entirely unrelated to compliance with BS7671.So the short answer is yes, I can do this, but I must record it as a departure.
therefore recording that as a departure would be incorrect, as there is no BS7671 reg that you have not followed.Details of the departures from BS7671 2018
I beg to differ, Reg 722.55.101.5 clearly states "The lowest part of any socket outlet shall be placed at a height of 0.5 to 1.5 m from the ground.compliance or otherwise with Part M of the statutory building regs is entirely unrelated to compliance with BS7671.
therefore recording that as a departure would be incorr88ect, as there is no BS7671 reg that you have not followed.
I beg to differ, Reg 722.55.101.5 clearly states "The lowest part of any socket outlet shall be placed at a height of 0.5 to 1.5 m from the ground.
NOTE The requirements of the National Building Regulations should be adhered to in respect of socket outlet heights."
So there you have it, it's a departure, one way or another, and must be recorded.
he's a pr1ck.I recently had this discussion with a guy on my crew at work who does kitchen renovations. Last year he did a kitchen refit for another crew member and he insisted that all the new sockets in the kitchen and new dinning room had to be at the ‘new build’ heights, so the customer has sockets at one end of the dinning room about 250-300mm from the floor and the other end they’re all at minimum of 450mm from the floor, there’s even 2 double sockets which are roughly 3ft from each other, 1 at 250mm & the other at 450mm, but he still insists that’s what ‘the rules say’, but based on some other photos I’ve seen, I don’t think he’s ever even owned a Lego set in his life.
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