what documents should be completed after initial veritication?

[Ian Smith]

of the electrical installation. trying to find the answer on the internet but no luck so far. Thanks in advance.

 

[stuartcourt]

how they class as small works beyond me in a domestic installation its pretty much the whole job

 

[Des 56]

The Napit Minor works/.Single circuit electrical certificate seems to contain the information required by the IET in their description of what is required to be included on the Electrical installation Certificate form No 1


Form No 1 is a condensed version of the much more comprehensive form No 2

What information, that may not be on the certificate do you suggest should be included
I very often hear moans about the volume of paperwork,yet there seems to be a yearning for complication where none may be essential


By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies

 

[Kate]

Only Crapit are suggesting a new ring final circuit can be classed as a minor Job with a minor works one page certificate, they need to get a grip with this before they are laughed out of the industry, Ive never known anything like it, what next? a rewire on a minor works LMAO, Dist board Change on a Minor works lol

Minor works is two page cert

 

[stuartcourt]

By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies[/QUOTE

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[MDJ]

Minor works is two page cert

LOL, Mine must be out of date then kate, apologies for that, as you can tell by my comment I don't do that many these days, all EICs really.

 

[Octopus]

Minor works is two page cert

Could you attach a blank one for us to peruse. I'm intreagued!

 

[Guest55]

By the way,I use my dear friends certificates,the red jobbies[/QUOTE

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

still not getting the hang of quoting yet ?
lol.

 

[Des 56]

There has been a few pages of opinions aghast at the sheer audacity to produce a user friendly form
If I had it on the computer,it would be my choice of form

All these scams generate forms that are made up as Glossy imitations of the IET model
The only essential needed is for the necessary info to be included

Reading the sheer amazement and envy displayed in this thread,it may be time for the Niceic to follow their lead

If you were to include the notes page,it would be a 3 page effort

 

[Guest55]

im amazed no-one bothers designing their own certs.
i have a couple of times when what was available was unsuitable.
its not that difficult.

 

[biggsy]

napit mwc for new circuit

View attachment napit mwc.pdf
not that i think its right napit mwc can be used for new circuit
also bs7671 forms are model to base forms on
gn3 states mwc not for new circuit

 

[MDJ]

thats not what I consider a minor works certificate, it's combined as a single circuit as well, been in the NICEIC too long I supose

 

[Des 56]

Re: napit mwc for new circuit

View attachment 18580
not that i think its right napit mwc can be used for new circuit
also bs7671 forms are model to base forms on
gn3 states mwc not for new circuit

That is not the current certificate
It is neither constructed the same or contains the information required
Page 1 is missing quite a lot of the form and you don't include the inspection schedule of page 3

 

[Kate]

LOL, Mine must be out of date then kate, apologies for that, as you can tell by my comment I don't do that many these days, all EICs really.

Thank you for the apology, it means a lot to me I know the cert isn't quite right/up to regs but NAPIT are my insurers too. If I don't follow their instructions I invalidate my insurance not just my membership.

 

[Kate]

Re: napit mwc for new circuit

View attachment 18580
not that i think its right napit mwc can be used for new circuit
also bs7671 forms are model to base forms on
gn3 states mwc not for new circuit

Thats the kak stuff to fill in the blank inside cover, I've never really looked at it. It doesn't represent the cert at all, as there is another page. I have a blank copy if the whole thing but I can't link to it as it is a password protected area of the website. Obviously I don't want to give my log in details! How can I upload a document to the forum? Or if I get PMed an email address I will email and attachment.

 

[Des 56]

Thank you for the apology, it means a lot to me I know the cert isn't quite right/up to regs but NAPIT are my insurers too. If I don't follow their instructions I invalidate my insurance not just my membership.

Whoever gave you that idea Kate
Do you honestly think that Napit would produce a form that was unfit for purpose and be unaware of what is required

I rarely have anything positive to say about the scams.but give them their due,they are not that stupid

 

[Des 56]

Kate
You are best not producing the certificate off the site,it could make problems for your good self
Let those who want to believe the rubbish warnings of the scaremeongers do so

You carry on using the forms with full confidence that they comply with IET requirements

 

[Kate]

Have you read all the posts on this thread? Do you know how much **** I've taken defending NAPIT. Situation has finally just been 'defused' please don't start it back up again.
Read ALL of this thread. I've even said I'm going to carry in using the forms even though at least 3 people have told me I'm stupid too.

 

[MDJ]

Have you read all the posts on this thread? Do you know how much **** I've taken defending NAPIT. Situation has finally just been 'defused' please don't start it back up again.
Read ALL of this thread. I've even said I'm going to carry in using the forms even though at least 3 people have told me I'm stupid too.

Calm Down Kate, no one is giving you grief, you need to grow a thick skin here, in a months time you will laugh at this, you have proved your point, we just don't agree with Napit, it doesn't mean your a cowboy, far from it, I can tell you take your job seriously and respect you for it, chin up girl.

 

[Kate]

Thank you. I was getting some really abusive messages yesterday and was on a downer when this thread started. The moderators have sorted this now...but it's knocked my confidence.
I have a fairly thick skin, worked on a company where everyone expected me to drop out any second and I was 'the tea bitch' for years...until I was 6 months from qualifying they realised I was serious.
The messages yesterday were pure evil though...don't think I've ever had anyone be that mean!!
i take my work as a 'projection' of me, I bumped into a customer today, did work for him 2 weeks ago and he gave me a tenner tip. That's why I do this job, not to earn money, it's the thanks afterwards.

 

[MDJ]

and I was 'the tea bitch' for years....

your not alone, I was the tea boy for all my apprentiship, your lucky you don't have testicles, I had mine painted with cutting paste in front of several women on a MOD site once, I was also stripped naked and tied to a fence lol, all part of learning the trade Kate.

 

[Kate]

I guess I was a bit lucky lol! Throughout my apprenticeship it was 'she can't do that job she's just the tea bitch' got to go to breaks 15mins early everyday to make tea for 10blokes lol. I should say it was the lads younger than me who did this, not the people running the jobs! And only practical jokes I got was to move my stuff etc. at the time I just felt alienated...ah to go back to when it was easy lol.
Now it's 14 hr days by the time you add in pricing/invoicing etc.
i am sorry for going on complete defensive yesterday. Feeling a little stressed

 

[Robert Turnbull]

If you issue a minor works for a new circuit
Do napit notify it?

At its a notifiable job?

 

[Kate]

If you issue a minor works for a new circuit
Do napit notify it?

At its a notifiable job?

yes they do

 

[Robert Turnbull]

If you issue a minor works for a new circuit
Do napit notify it?

At its a notifiable job?

yes they do

That's good

 

[Des 56]

If you issue a minor works for a new circuit
Do napit notify it?

At its a notifiable job?

No
Its an EIC that has a function that makes it of use for minor works if you so wish, as well as an EIC

 

[Des 56]

Kate,I took your advise and read all of the thread
You were standing alone against a tide of opinion and had no support,that was regrettable

However,you stood your ground,took things on the chin and bounced back with some fine uppercuts

No one appeared to question your electrical ability or standards

Stay around,get to know the characters and you may learn that they are a fine bunch,even when they are in pack mentality

 

[Kate]

Kate,I took your advise and read all of the thread
You were standing alone against a tide of opinion and had no support,that was regrettable

However,you stood your ground,took things on the chin and bounced back with some fine uppercuts

No one appeared to question your electrical ability or standards

Stay around,get to know the characters and you may learn that they are a fine bunch,even when they are in pack mentality

Thank you, when I look back I just see me being a bit mental!! I had a bad day yesterday. Yea I can see they weren't questioning me as such, my confidence was down from a previous encounter. I am sorry for my emotional coming out. Think I need a holiday! I am feeling a little ill stressed. Have organised myself a half day off Friday assuming my planing works, before I blow a casket.

 

[Guest55]

Stay around,get to know the characters and you may learn that they are a fine bunch,even when they are in pack mentality

stay clear of that biff geezer though , i've heard he's a right ----er.

 

[Kate]

That comment makes me want to eat pancakes.

 

[markc123]

Thank you. I was getting some really abusive messages yesterday and was on a downer when this thread started. The moderators have sorted this now...but it's knocked my confidence.
I have a fairly thick skin, worked on a company where everyone expected me to drop out any second and I was 'the tea bitch' for years...until I was 6 months from qualifying they realised I was serious.
The messages yesterday were pure evil though...don't think I've ever had anyone be that mean!!
i take my work as a 'projection' of me, I bumped into a customer today, did work for him 2 weeks ago and he gave me a tenner tip. That's why I do this job, not to earn money, it's the thanks afterwards.

You still are the tea bitch

No idea who was sending you horrible private messages - but whoever they are they need to get a grip.