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I can't think of any other industry where the Chinese dominate where this is the case.I think allowing the Chinese Government to subsidise their panels to undercut everyone else is a short term measure to enable them to dominate the market. Once they have that domination they will then control the market and the price.
Allowing this situation to continue in order to provide cheap solar is a short sighted policy. In the long term it will lead to domination of the market by the chinese and consequently more expensive systems. Supporting cheap panels now is an eat today starve tomorrow policy. The long term health of the solar insustry can only be through protection of other nations manufacturing by the imposition of duties on subsidised chinese imports. This is in the long term interests of the industry as a whole and future investment in environmental technologies.
I think the likely increase in panel prices will be in the order of 15-20%, equivalent to an increase of well under 10% on the actual installed price.
VAT is much more of an issue, with a potential rise of 15% on the whole job price. This is where we should be concentrating our efforts. A VAT figure of 5% on renewables encourages the installation of renewables with no adverse influence on manufacturers and consequently encourages R&D into future technologies.
It just means the Government can't shove quite as much cake in it's collective mouth!
we are.
Neoliberalism is a failing ideology, always was doomed to failure really, but it comes to something when the capitalist west has to be shown how capitalism works best by a still nominally communist China.
worth remembering in all this that the chinese invested billions of dollars in building these massive solar plants in order specifically to drive costs down in the industry, and to meet the demand growth predicted from Europe and elsewhere in order to meet EU countries stated renewables targets etc. following a period in 2009-10 where the global manufacturing capacity for solar PV simply couldn't keep up with demand, and for a time it was virtually impossible to even buy both panels and inverters in the UK.
The only reason the Chinese have hit these problems and ended up having to extend financial support to their companies is because the EU countries all unilaterally slashed their FIT rates through 2011-12 because of the spread of the lunacy that is 'austerity' policies, and a complete misunderstanding of economics and the short and long term benefits of solar PV.
Without these actions, the Chinese would not have had to prop up the industry they'd just invested billions in, and EU manufacturers would still be in business.
SO the EU should be looking to itself for causing these problems, rather than blaming the Chinese for doing what they needed to do to prevent their massive investment in solar from immediately going into massive nationwide bankruptcies that would have taken down several state owned banks in the process.
Gavin, the shortage of panels wasn't caused my an insufficient number being manufactured, it was caused by Europe being emptied of stock and because of the time frame the government gave us there was not sufficient time to ship more panels from china. Lets not forget the UK alone consumed 18months+ of kit in 5 weeks
The chinese have subsidisaed their solar industry since inception, not since the drop in demand.
Their aim is to dominate the market by driving all other manufacturers out of business.
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