Can't find a consumer unit....!

[timhoward]

This is getting embarrassing - I've been looking for a sub-main consumer unit in a church for an hour now.
I've found the incomer. There's a nice old Crabtree board with black breakers, one of which is a 50A for "Hall DB". It's a split level site and the hall is downstairs, and the fat 10mm T+E cable goes off in this direction. Turning the breaker off isolates the rfc circuit I need to tap into and while it's looking unlikely it's RCD protected and I need to know and probably remedy this.
I could easily prove it isn't of course, a simple high current Zs, but either way I'm stuffed - if it is RCD protected I need to be able to reset it, and if it isn't I need to find the board and change it!

I've just swallowed my pride and phoned the guy that did the last EICR, who laughed and said "glad it's not just me, I couldn't find it either, and I put it down as an agreed limitation!" (so an entire floor wasn't tested....hmmmm!)

In desperation I've shorted L+N at the supply to it and measured the resistance of the lighting circuit downstairs, and narrowed it down to one corner of the building.
If I ever find it I'll report back...

 

[pc1966]

No mate surely Rev Green with the candlestick in the cellar?!

I though it was Miss Scarlett in the Basement with a strap-on snap-on?

 

[pc1966]

I suspect that if I could hear an answer, it would be something like:
1 Corinthians 2:5
"so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power"

More likely Job 5:7
"Yet man is born to trouble, As the sparks fly upward"

 

[timhoward]

News just in - the bloke with beard has located it. Don't know the actual answer yet! I'm back there next Friday.

 

[timhoward]

@snowhead gets the cigar - "Above false ceiling" was the final answer. I must have been very close to finding it!
Photo coming later.

 

[Lister1987]

Check that EFLI is exactly 666 ohms and let Lucifer do the rest

 

[Lister1987]

More likely Job 5:7
"Yet man is born to trouble, As the sparks fly upward"

Proof again that Electricians are Gods

 

[pc1966]

Proof again that Electricians are Gods

Or Devils?

 

[pc1966]

Check that EFLI is exactly 666 ohms and let Lucifer do the rest

The Zs of the Beast!

Or if it is 0.666 the Zs of the millibeast!

 

[DPG]

You can always trust blokes with beards.

 

[suffolkspark]

@snowhead gets the cigar - "Above false ceiling" was the final answer. I must have been very close to finding it!
Photo coming later.

In getting restless waiting for the picture

 

[littlespark]

You can always trust blokes with beards.

Yeah.... Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter, Joss Whedon, Johnny Depp. The list goes on......

Ok, a couple of the above names are alledged.... the other two... no doubt

 

[nicebutdim]

Yeah.... Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter, Joss Whedon, Johnny Depp. The list goes on......

Ok, a couple of the above names are alledged.... the other two... no doubt

Some of those beards are definitely alleged.

No idea who Joss Whedon is, but Glitter & Depp's facial hair would be more accurately described as 'whiskers'.


What happened with Depp in the end? I remember stories about him hitting an ex, but then also remember stories that it was the ex who was violent.

 

[timhoward]

Still waiting for picture myself!

 

[nicebutdim]

Still waiting for picture myself!

Surely the building is open on a Sunday?

 

[telectrix]

Some of those beards are definitely alleged.

No idea who Joss Whedon is, but Glitter & Depp's facial hair would be more accurately described as 'whiskers'.


What happened with Depp in the end? I remember stories about him hitting an ex, but then also remember stories that it was the ex who was violent.

morelike pubic hair in the wrong place. hence the term dick-head

 

[littlespark]

Some of those beards are definitely alleged.

No idea who Joss Whedon is, but Glitter & Depp's facial hair would be more accurately described as 'whiskers'.


What happened with Depp in the end? I remember stories about him hitting an ex, but then also remember stories that it was the ex who was violent.

Joss Whedon is a producer or director or something that’s worked on a few DC or Marvel films. Did Buffy The Vampire Slayer series a while back and that’s where “allegations” are coming from.


Yes. Photos!
What you been doing all weekend???

 

[pc1966]

Yes. Photos!
What you been doing all weekend???

Praying for this to end?

 

[timhoward]

Yes. Photos!
What you been doing all weekend???

Patience guys! As soon as the bearded wonder sends me the photo, it will be up here quicker than a rat out of an aqueduct....!
Worst case I'm back there on Friday and will take my own.

It's been a busy weekend - I just got back from a delightful drive from Oswestry to Grimsby and back. The things you do for your children that you wouldn't do for anyone else....

 

[telectrix]

Patience guys! As soon as the bearded wonder sends me the photo, it will be up here quicker than a rat out of an aqueduct....!
Worst case I'm back there on Friday and will take my own.

It's been a busy weekend - I just got back from a delightful drive from Oswestry to Grimsby and back. The things you do for your children that you wouldn't do for anyone else....

was your local fish and chip shop closed then? looking for a fishy smell CU in the wrong plaice? Cod Almighty. Might need a Bird's Eye view.

 

[timhoward]

was your local fish and chip shop closed then? looking for a fishy smell CU in the wrong plaice? Cod Almighty. Might need a Bird's Eye view.

Of all the colleges in the UK, my eldest decided Grimsby was the place to study. Most trains were buses yesterday, so dad's taxi service got invoked.
I wasn't able to find a chippy open when I got there last night, and I still haven't managed to sample the local fish. One day.

 

[timhoward]

Better late than never. I called in tonight to look for myself as I was in the area.

The main distribution area, with sub main marked. There have been semi-competent additions, at least with correct cable sizes, but no sign of testing and the quality of labelling is hopefully not indicative!

And downstairs, the other end of the building, frustratingly about the only area I didn't lift ceiling panels
:

A decent vintage, the BS1361 variety...

 

[littlespark]

“Seek, and ye shall find”

Obvious now, when you think of it.
There are a lot of fuse boards mounted at height, and of course, false ceilings hide the very top of the walls.

Next time, stepladders and a super bright torch

 

[UNG]

Reminds me of the old Lancashire county built schools from the late 60's / 70's they were very creative when it came to locating the DB's and some other services quite often behind demountable wall panels with no indication of what was behind them