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  1. poumpouris
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    poumpouris EF Member

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    Hey guys, im not a professional electrician, I just have a basic knowledge of some stuff.
    In order for me to be able to explain what i want to do, I will first explain what is in place at the moment.
    We have a 3 zone programmer which we never use as a programmer, we just turn on each zone manually when we want.
    So i thought, since this is all done manually i could put together a raspberry pi connected to a 4 channel relay board and control the whole thing from my smartphone. I found all the software and hardware i need and i can make the relays open and close but I am not sure what to connect where on the relay in order to get the central heating to work as it works now.
    Here is a picture of what the wires look like behind the programmer at the moment. The letters for the wires from left to right are: E,N,L,1,3,5
    wires_behind_programmer.jpg


    Here is a picture of the relay i have although the picture is of a 2 channel relay instead of 4 channel.
    relay.jpg

    From my basic understanding, what i thought i should do is connect N and L together and then connect them to the COM terminal of the relays. Then connect 1,3,5 to the NO of each relay but I'm not really sure and I don't want to burn anything.

    Can you please advise me on what to connect where?
    Thank you in advance.
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear Electrician's Arms

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    have not heard of a system hive or nest ?
     
  3. Matthewd29
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    What do you mean connect L and N together?
     
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  4. Vortigern
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    An interesting project. Look at your controller wiring diagram that should yield what is doing what. Is your boiler old or new, would it void the warranty if you control it with a non approved system? Talk with the manufacturer of your boiler and controller, tech department and discuss it with them.
     
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  5. Leesparkykent
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    Do you know the make of programmer? Is that existing programmer just doing one heating zone and hot water?
     
  6. poumpouris
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    @buzzlightyear@buzzlightyear I have heard of them but i don't really need any of that, i just saw something that is done manually and found a project for my self

    @Matthewd29@Matthewd29 I meant connecting the black and the first red wire, if what im saying is idiotic just say so, thats why i asked before doing anything.

    @Vortigern@Vortigern This is the wiring diagram from the programmer manual
    wiring_diagram.png
    The boiler is about 20 years old so i dont think there is still warranty on that.

    @Leesparkykent@Leesparkykent The programmer is a Channelplus h37xl and it controls 2 heating zones and hot water at the moment
     
  7. Matthewd29
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    No don't connect them together, connect the live to the common terminals and use the switch lives from the time clock on the 2 normally open terminals (presume normally open for what you need) The neutral doesn't seem to be needed on the relay shown
     
  8. Leesparkykent
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    Link live across the commons and switch lives to normally open.
     
  9. poumpouris
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    Ok, but if neutral is not needed, why is it there? To power the programmer?
     
  10. Leesparkykent
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    Leesparkykent You Rock Gmes Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    yes the existing programmer requires a neutral, that's why it is there.
     
  11. Matthewd29
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    Yep that is indeed why. But the relay shown doesn't need it.
     
  12. poumpouris
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    Great, thanks for the help guys! I will give it a try in a few days and post back.
     
  13. AJshep
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    AJshep Active EF Member

    First off you only have 2 relays however you have a 3 Channel Programmer !

    If you want to control all of the channels individually your need another relay.

    Another thing to note If you have a Y plan then your also need to use the nc contact on the relay you use for hot water for hot water off.

    Other than that Rpi works well I have a similar setup with mine a switching my garden lights.

    ***edit sorry just read its for CH only and you have 4 relays ***
     
  14. poumpouris
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    @AJshep@AJshep I dont know if i described it in a wrong way,i intent to use the 2 zones and the hot water. I will search a bit to find out how exactly Y plan works and see if it is what i have
     
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    dunno anything about this raspberry pie. i like this though:

     
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    and of course same band was first ever play on radio 1, before it went into shyte "music". september 1967.

     
  17. danzor
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    I need to design a system like this, but for panel heaters.

    I thought raspberry pi was for TV’s, come on abut lately?
     
  18. AJshep
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    AJshep Active EF Member

    You would probably make alot of Money. I noticed a thing called "Wise Box" the other day in a local wholesalers looks like a Rpi with a relay board but 4x the price with just basic wifi control.
     
  19. davesparks
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    It’s clear from the picture in the OP that it’s not a Y plan system but a three zone system.
     
  20. AJshep
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    AJshep Active EF Member

    Yes I know the OP was pretty clear I didn't read it properly.
     
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