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fortunately i don't have to touch it. pub landlord had asked brewery to sort it several times but no go. all i have to do is give him ( in writing ) that it's dangerous and an immediate fire hazard so he might get some sense out of the tight fisted buggers.
 
Here's some photos from my collection of horrors .....

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That shower cable was discovered during an EICR that I did last December. Curious as to how Mr. Wetpants managed to install a cable supplying a shower circuit within a modern property with sheeted flooring without damaging any of the plasterboard walls, I decided to trace the cable run. Upon rolling-back the carpet at the top landing, I realised that the imbecile had simply drilled a hole between one of the steps to inside the cupboard on the ground floor where the consumer unit is located. He then ran the cable across the stairs and up to the top landing whereupon he drilled a hole through the top step to gain access beneath the landing floor. Further holes were then drilled in the landing flooring so he could guide the cable towards a linen cupboard. Once inside the cupboard he ran the cable up into the loft and across to a 45 amp pullcord switch. Naturally, the numpty left the cable dangling inside the linen cupboard.

Fortunately, because the property owner hired a joiner to replace the sections of damaged flooring, the job of rewiring the circuit and upgrading the cable to 10mm was made considerably easier. No RCD protection was provided for the circuit so a consumer unit upgrade was also required. All in all, a very profitable discovery indeed!
 
Not at 'trade pic' as such but after replacing some down lights for a friend they mentioned that similar down lights in two upstairs bedrooms had stopped working. I had a quick scoopys in the loft area...

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FatAlan said:
Not at 'trade pic' as such but after replacing some down lights for a friend they mentioned that similar down lights in two upstairs bedrooms had stopped working. I had a quick scoopys in the loft area...

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Has anyone else noticed that a lot of these DIY jobs have been done using T&E with a white sheath? Whenever I come across T&E with a white sheath I assume until proven otherwise that the job was done by a DIYer who bought all the materials from Wickes! I may well be wrong, but I'm unaware of any other outlet that sold white-sheathed 6242Y T&E.
 
JK-Electrical said:

Has anyone else noticed that a lot of these DIY jobs have been done using T&E with a white sheath? Whenever I come across T&E with a white sheath I assume until proven otherwise that the job was done by a DIYer who bought all the materials from Wickes! I may well be wrong, but I'm unaware of any other outlet that sold white-sheathed 6242Y T&E.
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I may be wrong here but I recall when we had red and black etc (old proper colours) the cable sheath of cable sold south of Watford was white.
 
Interesting you say it's a DIY job. The house is a barn conversion and just next to this birds nest they've just had a new hot water tank installed and get the impression this was left over. The board the JB is fixed to is just lying loose on top of the joists.
 
LSF? Yes south of Watford we do tend to get a bit more sun light. Could it have faded in the intense brightness we get in our lofts down here in Surrey and Hampshire. Usually intended brightness in lofts is down to cannabis grows., but that's another thread!
 
FatAlan said:
Interesting you say it's a DIY job. The house is a barn conversion and just next to this birds nest they've just had a new hot water tank installed and get the impression this was left over. The board the JB is fixed to is just lying loose on top of the joists.
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I'd be very surprised indeed if this was done by a professional electrician. Everything I see here tells me it was a DIY job. You have provided further evidence by confirming that the enclosure was not adequately secured to the building structure.
 
FatAlan said:
Not at 'trade pic' as such but after replacing some down lights for a friend they mentioned that similar down lights in two upstairs bedrooms had stopped working. I had a quick scoopys in the loft area...

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Well at least its nicely labelled!

And to clear up the white outer sheathing thing before we "harmonised" with Europe Twin and Earth cable only came with a white sheath. When we harmonised, the sheathing become Grey, then later LSF appeared with a b******d to strip white sheath! :mad:
 
no. T/E was always predominantly grey sheath before the stupid colours came in.it was generally DIY stores stocked the white sheathed cable.
 
Billsays said:
Well at least its nicely labelled!

And to clear up the white outer sheathing thing before we "harmonised" with Europe Twin and Earth cable only came with a white sheath. When we harmonised, the sheathing become Grey, then later LSF appeared with a b******d to strip white sheath! :mad:
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6242Y and 6243Y T&E has had a grey sheath for as long as I can remember. It was circa 1998 when I first noticed white-sheathed 6242Y and 6243Y T&E on sale at Wickes. Prior to that I had never seen anything other than grey-sheathed 6242Y and 6243Y T&E. 6242B LSF has always had a white sheath.
 
Can some whizz now put a clip of the dude on the beach Southern Comforr advert. Always makes me chuckle as I walk along the beach in my speedos drink in hand!
 
Yes. I do own a pair of speedos. You have to have them in France apparently although I do suspect it is a French ploy to take the p*** out of us roast beefs!:cool:
 
This was how my grandmas house was wired (built 1965) all the lights and switches had one cable (TRS no cpc) going back to a box in the loft, even the sockets were wired as a spider! My parents house (built 1972) was wired the same, although with pvc t & e.
 
KEV 1 N said:
This was how my grandmas house was wired (built 1965) all the lights and switches had one cable (TRS no cpc) going back to a box in the loft, even the sockets were wired as a spider! My parents house (built 1972) was wired the same, although with pvc t & e.
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Our house was built around that time and the upstairs lights are wired back to a central junction box all labelled up inside eg light bed 1 switch 1 etc. Pete note:- all clipped with metal buckle clips. It had has Volex stamped on it.
 
Yeah, in my grandmas house, the cables were in a j box with BICC on it and the connections were made with screwits.
In my parents the sockets are joined with line tap connectors and wrapped up with tape, no box!!
 
Billsays said:
Well at least its nicely labelled!

And to clear up the white outer sheathing thing before we "harmonised" with Europe Twin and Earth cable only came with a white sheath. When we harmonised, the sheathing become Grey, then later LSF appeared with a b******d to strip white sheath! :mad:
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2 x disagree! ????:D
 
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Remember guys we are in the public arena, such video uploads are thus a tad too much on the expletive side, the Arms maybe but not in the general forum please!
 
Did a rewire last week after a customer called with some concerns brought up by other trades. They had owned and lived in the property for about 6 months and were aware that the last owner was an enthusiastic DIYer who had lived there for decades and proudly claimed ownership of all the electrical alterations done over the years.

Some of this is probably the oldest gear still in service I have removed from a domestic property.
Anyone got a good guess on age of the Wooden unit ? Was fed in VIR tails and circuits were in TRS twin with fused neutrals. This install also featured VIR twin which I had not seen before.

Highlights included:
  • Vir in service on all lighting circuits with no cpc. Metal switches fitted extensively. Exposed conductors present in some due to cracked rubber insulation.
  • Loose connections at a recently altered socket causing damaged socket and loss of cpc for rest of circuit
  • Upstairs sockets fed in rubber twin. Cpcs nicked off a lead pipe.
  • Fused neutrals on all upstairs sockets
  • cpcs cut out on all recent lighting wiring
  • One RCD present on one despite at least 4 circuits being altered in the last few years, 3 featuring sockets. The RCD did not trip under testing.
  • Bell wire used at switches
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Richard Burns said:
Nice one!!:eek:
At least you have bonding to the gas!
Must be about 1950's for the wooden box or at least the squared fuses.
How do people manage not to die?
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Bonding was in to the water too surprisingly.

It was the metal switches with cracked conductor insulation and no cpc that scared me most. The family had been lucky. They said they had replaced the fuse wire a few times in the last 6 months due to it blowing.
 
Just as it is illegal put a vehicle on the road without it having a current MOT certificate, has the time arrived for it to also be illegal to put a house on the market without a recent satisfactory Electrical Installation Condition Report?

Given that there are few homeowners who ever bother to have their installations inspected and tested every 10 years as recommended, should they not be required by law to maintain their installations in a safe condition, or, at the very least, be compelled to have an EICR carried-out on their property before they can legally sell it?
 
JK-Electrical said:
Just as it is illegal put a vehicle on the road without it having a current MOT certificate, has the time arrived for it to also be illegal to put a house on the market without a recent satisfactory Electrical Installation Condition Report?

Given that there are few homeowners who ever bother to have their installations inspected and tested every 10 years as recommended, should they not be required by law to maintain their installations in a safe condition, or, at the very least, be compelled to have an EICR carried-out on their property before they can legally sell it?
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All home insurance companies need to do is make it part of the policies.
 
JK-Electrical said:
Just as it is illegal put a vehicle on the road without it having a current MOT certificate, has the time arrived for it to also be illegal to put a house on the market without a recent satisfactory Electrical Installation Condition Report?

Given that there are few homeowners who ever bother to have their installations inspected and tested every 10 years as recommended, should they not be required by law to maintain their installations in a safe condition, or, at the very least, be compelled to have an EICR carried-out on their property before they can legally sell it?
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You can't make it a legal requirement to have an eicr carried out because the eicr is a part of a non-statutory standard.
The first step in this process would be to make the wiring regulations a legal requirement, which is a pretty tall order now.
 
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