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Daydreaming today while at the ice rink.

Last day of the season, and they turned on their disco lights and music.
I got to thinking about embedding lights actually in the ice.
Would it be possible?
Not worried about the waterproof nature, but more any heat generated by a standard LED tape?
Could run the tape just an inch above the surface, but some clown would damage it with their skate.

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When I started reading this I assumed you saw the ice hockey on TV a few days ago. Pro rinks are a slab of concrete with embedded gooling pipes, from start up they freeze the slab then spray water which instantly freezes and it built up to about 4". I can forsee no mechanical issues with sticking the tape to the slab, before adding water, as long at the change in shape (expansion/contraction) isn't a problem. Other problems have already been raised
 
I think it is going to be down to volt drop..
the drivers/ controllers can be placed under the floor at one end wheee the public doesn’t have access, and as described, the ice is a slab that is added to as it gets worn down.
The curling rings are painted on on ice then covered by 2 inches of fresh.

I’m fairly sure they melt down all the ice during the summer while it’s closed. Be a time to add anything.

I’ll suggest it to them, but they’ve got a new sound system to buy… they were talking about 4 new speakers and an amp that doesn’t puff smoke in time to the music.
 
I think it is going to be down to volt drop..
the drivers/ controllers can be placed under the floor at one end wheee the public doesn’t have access, and as described, the ice is a slab that is added to as it gets worn down.
The curling rings are painted on on ice then covered by 2 inches of fresh.

I’m fairly sure they melt down all the ice during the summer while it’s closed. Be a time to add anything.

I’ll suggest it to them, but they’ve got a new sound system to buy… they were talking about 4 new speakers and an amp that doesn’t puff smoke in time to the music.
Yes the markings are done within the ice, the only time I've seen it done was with powder rather than an actual paint but I have no idea if that is anything like a standard.

To thaw and drain then restart is a lot of work, not the sort of thing to do on a whim so I imagine it would not be done unless required for maintenance of some sort.

Using 24V tape makes a big difference to volt drop issues.

Isn't the blue smoke a designer special effect:)
 
At least with conductors at a steady -30 (or whatever) conductor resistance is going to be as low as reasonable!
 

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