NICEIC Certification Scheme Electrical fire in house

[timhoward]

No updates since the middle of last year suggest the situation has been resolved in some way or is no longer a priority.

Nor did I, and it was me that woke it up again. Oops.

 

[nicebutdim]

OP has been active in the last month, so there is that, but for whatever reason have shared nothing further.

 

[Raymond]

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.

Good luck Raymond.

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.



Good luck Raymond.



Thank you so much you hit the nail on the head. I can’t move out. High risk group plus, this whole electrical situation with the land lord was the start of him trying to illegally evict me.



After 6 months of the hazard awareness notice landowners did nothing. The garden flat I live in had no planing permission, when I moved in he told me I could use one part as my kitchen, I have all evidence of that, even got it in a transcript to prove it too. I wasn’t aware at the time he could use that part of the flat. Camden council had already issued him notice. The housing team at camden have also breached there duties.



3 years later a power cut happened, this was one of so so many. Went 3 day with no electricity also the hmo was all down too. Because I’m disabled I had to have electricity cables over the wall to next door for use of electricity.



That was final for me. Because I have a protected characteristic and the landlord knows of my condition, this shouldn’t happen.



I reported to camden and they didn’t come out to do inspection to my flat or the hmo property that landlord was running without a licence for over a year.

Instead the EHO ISSUED prohibition order. But left me in the property. Technically I’m homeless. Made so by the landlord because flat not git enough to live in. So he must pay compensation or the local authority.



So I got a qualified electrician to visit the property and as soon as he opened the cupboard he said it’s a CODE 1 camden council ignored his response to this.



Cut this story short: ukpn supplied a 3 phase network and the landlord apparently has paid out over 30k.



We are in court I have an amazing solicitor and barrister. No rent has been paid for over a year that is also in court.

The disrepair is in court too

Also he told the electrical company eon that there was a marijuana farm at my flat and this was the cause of the electrical ? in the property. This is also recorded and was passed onto action fraud.

8 flats he was collecting the money from the coin meters ever month and not paying the bill.

Because it was very high bill the landlord told them I had left the property because of a marijuana farm at my flat and all windows were painted black.

THIS OF COURSE IS ALL LIES.



So that issue is also in court for DEFAMATION my barrister has asked for 60k because of this.



Now all meters are outside in the same cupboard but updated.



I removed my meter off there fraudulent setup so I have my own meter and I pay 17£ per month and get my disability discount on electricity.

Before we were paying 50 to 80 per week in the winter, all 8 flats. One guy had his family round for Christmas he paid into the coin meter over £100.



I have faced harassment and it’s all on cctv I have evidence of everything. No hot water for over a year to today no heating. Breach of human rights. The energy Onbudsman upheld my complaints and issued compensation I refused it because it means I’m satisfied with the end result. NO WAY AM I SATISFIED.



This ROGUE LANDLORD never knew I’m a secret agent ??????

I wish lol.

I’m just a disabled tenant wanting to live safe. Is that to much to ask for?



Ahh also I forgot to say hes name is not on the land register but he signed statements of truth that he is. His illegal eviction WILL be struck out and I hope he gets put on the ROGUE LANDLORDS REGISTER

 

[Raymond]

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.



Good luck Raymond.



Thank you so much you hit the nail on the head. I can’t move out. High risk group plus, this whole electrical situation with the land lord was the start of him trying to illegally evict me.



After 6 months of the hazard awareness notice landowners did nothing. The garden flat I live in had no planing permission, when I moved in he told me I could use one part as my kitchen, I have all evidence of that, even got it in a transcript to prove it too. I wasn’t aware at the time he could use that part of the flat. Camden council had already issued him notice. The housing team at camden have also breached there duties.



3 years later a power cut happened, this was one of so so many. Went 3 day with no electricity also the hmo was all down too. Because I’m disabled I had to have electricity cables over the wall to next door for use of electricity.



That was final for me. Because I have a protected characteristic and the landlord knows of my condition, this shouldn’t happen.



I reported to camden and they didn’t come out to do inspection to my flat or the hmo property that landlord was running without a licence for over a year.

Instead the EHO ISSUED prohibition order. But left me in the property. Technically I’m homeless. Made so by the landlord because flat not git enough to live in. So he must pay compensation or the local authority.



So I got a qualified electrician to visit the property and as soon as he opened the cupboard he said it’s a CODE 1 camden council ignored his response to this.



Cut this story short: ukpn supplied a 3 phase network and the landlord apparently has paid out over 30k.



We are in court I have an amazing solicitor and barrister. No rent has been paid for over a year that is also in court.

The disrepair is in court too

Also he told the electrical company eon that there was a marijuana farm at my flat and this was the cause of the electrical ? in the property. This is also recorded and was passed onto action fraud.

8 flats he was collecting the money from the coin meters ever month and not paying the bill.

Because it was very high bill the landlord told them I had left the property because of a marijuana farm at my flat and all windows were painted black.

THIS OF COURSE IS ALL LIES.



So that issue is also in court for DEFAMATION my barrister has asked for 60k because of this.



Now all meters are outside in the same cupboard but updated.



I removed my meter off there fraudulent setup so I have my own meter and I pay 17£ per month and get my disability discount on electricity.

Before we were paying 50 to 80 per week in the winter, all 8 flats. One guy had his family round for Christmas he paid into the coin meter over £100.



I have faced harassment and it’s all on cctv I have evidence of everything. No hot water for over a year to today no heating. Breach of human rights. The energy Onbudsman upheld my complaints and issued compensation I refused it because it means I’m satisfied with the end result. NO WAY AM I SATISFIED.



This ROGUE LANDLORD never knew I’m a secret agent ??????

I wish lol.

I’m just a disabled tenant wanting to live safe. Is that to much to ask for?



Ahh also I forgot to say hes name is not on the land register but he signed statements of truth that he is. His illegal eviction WILL be struck out and I hope he gets put on the ROGUE LANDLORDS REGISTER

 

[Raymond]

The electrician has done his job in identifying serious issues.

he has made it unsatisfactory and given 6 months Till next inspection.

he reports he was unable to test one board due to mess. ( mess is my words, he says neutrals and earths terminated in wrong sequence. we all know that’s code for mess). This is why he has not tested it all.

I have not read full report, but picked up that this electrician has done his job in so far as he knows its a mess and said so within his limits.

ok I agree I would word things differently,

i agree he hasn’t tested everything, but I possibly wouldn’t either if it means extra work not quoted for to put right before I could begin testing.

his coding seems ok to me, but some will rip that apart because of our different views On coding.



advice for Tennant.

It looks like notices have been issued to landlord to get things moving. The council are involved. Unfortunately these thing take time. And Under covid restriction will take longer.

Even if the landlord does acknowledge he needs to do something, it will take time to find contractors to do the job. and actually carrying out the works will take a fair bit of time.

a lot of landlords in my area are selling up due to the new electrical inspection laws out on 1st April. Your land lord may decide to sell up Rather than pay to get the works done. It’s going to cost a substantial amount to do.


If I was you and I was in a position to I would move out.

legally I’m afraid I dont believe there is anything you can do to speed things along.

I think the advice on going to your local MP surgery may help, but since the council are involved already then maybe it won’t.

good luck.

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.



Good luck Raymond.



Thank you so much you hit the nail on the head. I can’t move out. High risk group plus, this whole electrical situation with the land lord was the start of him trying to illegally evict me.



After 6 months of the hazard awareness notice landowners did nothing. The garden flat I live in had no planing permission, when I moved in he told me I could use one part as my kitchen, I have all evidence of that, even got it in a transcript to prove it too. I wasn’t aware at the time he could use that part of the flat. Camden council had already issued him notice. The housing team at camden have also breached there duties.



3 years later a power cut happened, this was one of so so many. Went 3 day with no electricity also the hmo was all down too. Because I’m disabled I had to have electricity cables over the wall to next door for use of electricity.



That was final for me. Because I have a protected characteristic and the landlord knows of my condition, this shouldn’t happen.



I reported to camden and they didn’t come out to do inspection to my flat or the hmo property that landlord was running without a licence for over a year.

Instead the EHO ISSUED prohibition order. But left me in the property. Technically I’m homeless. Made so by the landlord because flat not git enough to live in. So he must pay compensation or the local authority.



So I got a qualified electrician to visit the property and as soon as he opened the cupboard he said it’s a CODE 1 camden council ignored his response to this.



Cut this story short: ukpn supplied a 3 phase network and the landlord apparently has paid out over 30k.



We are in court I have an amazing solicitor and barrister. No rent has been paid for over a year that is also in court.

The disrepair is in court too

Also he told the electrical company eon that there was a marijuana farm at my flat and this was the cause of the electrical ? in the property. This is also recorded and was passed onto action fraud.

8 flats he was collecting the money from the coin meters ever month and not paying the bill.

Because it was very high bill the landlord told them I had left the property because of a marijuana farm at my flat and all windows were painted black.

THIS OF COURSE IS ALL LIES.



So that issue is also in court for DEFAMATION my barrister has asked for 60k because of this.



Now all meters are outside in the same cupboard but updated.



I removed my meter off there fraudulent setup so I have my own meter and I pay 17£ per month and get my disability discount on electricity.

Before we were paying 50 to 80 per week in the winter, all 8 flats. One guy had his family round for Christmas he paid into the coin meter over £100.



I have faced harassment and it’s all on cctv I have evidence of everything. No hot water for over a year to today no heating. Breach of human rights. The energy Onbudsman upheld my complaints and issued compensation I refused it because it means I’m satisfied with the end result. NO WAY AM I SATISFIED.



This ROGUE LANDLORD never knew I’m a secret agent ??????

I wish lol.

I’m just a disabled tenant wanting to live safe. Is that to much to ask for?



Ahh also I forgot to say hes name is not on the land register but he signed statements of truth that he is. His illegal eviction WILL be struck out and I hope he gets put on the ROGUE LANDLORDS REGISTER

 

[timhoward]

If I understand you right you now at least have a safe and stable electrical supply. That is good to hear.
Sorry to hear of everything else you are going through. I hope you find a way to move as being honest this doesn't sound like it's going to end well even if you win all the court cases. Again, hope things work out.

 

[littlespark]

Its one for "rogue landlords" telly programme.

Makes you wonder why we have these schemes and committees meant to make things safer for joe public when sod all gets done about things. Lightly slapped wrist, and off on your merry way....

We do joke around somewhat on this forum about weed farms... as we've probably all come across them at some time, or heard about one locally... but i bet its not fun being accused of having one.

Long term, i cant see you staying in the property. Not with landlord being the way he is. Fighting for your home is one thing, but its just going to go on and on... one thing after another.
Fight for what's due you, but i would get out at the earliest opertunity

 

[nicebutdim]

Seems as though matters have progressed significantly!

 

[Lister1987]

Glad to hear landlord getting shafted, and rightly so. Good on you for utilising the equality act and using the protected characteristic of disability to your ability, pardon the pun.

We also have primary legislation in the fitness for Human Habitation Act. Speak to your legal bod and if this card hasn't been played yet then get it played as it should have a negative effect on his relicensing.

If you haven't already, have a word with the Housing Ombudsman too. While you're not in Social Housing per say, the local authority grant a HMO license, which in effect qualifies as social housing (in so much that thelocal authority grant license of operation under the Housing Act, like they do with housing associations.

 

[littlespark]

And just when I thought what I said in #37 fell on deaf ears....

This weeks local rag:

Search launched to trace occupier of a Hawick flat where £90k of cannabis was uncovered

A cannabis farm discovered at a flat in Hawick yesterday, Friday, March 12, is believed to contain drugs with a street value in the region of £90,000, police have confirmed.

www.thesouthernreporter.co.uk

 

[Raymond]

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.



Good luck Raymond.



Thank you so much you hit the nail on the head. I can’t move out. High risk group plus, this whole electrical situation with the land lord was the start of him trying to illegally evict me.



After 6 months of the hazard awareness notice landowners did nothing. The garden flat I live in had no planing permission, when I moved in he told me I could use one part as my kitchen, I have all evidence of that, even got it in a transcript to prove it too. I wasn’t aware at the time he could use that part of the flat. Camden council had already issued him notice. The housing team at camden have also breached there duties.



3 years later a power cut happened, this was one of so so many. Went 3 day with no electricity also the hmo was all down too. Because I’m disabled I had to have electricity cables over the wall to next door for use of electricity.



That was final for me. Because I have a protected characteristic and the landlord knows of my condition, this shouldn’t happen.



I reported to camden and they didn’t come out to do inspection to my flat or the hmo property that landlord was running without a licence for over a year.

Instead the EHO ISSUED prohibition order. But left me in the property. Technically I’m homeless. Made so by the landlord because flat not git enough to live in. So he must pay compensation or the local authority.



So I got a qualified electrician to visit the property and as soon as he opened the cupboard he said it’s a CODE 1 camden council ignored his response to this.



Cut this story short: ukpn supplied a 3 phase network and the landlord apparently has paid out over 30k.



We are in court I have an amazing solicitor and barrister. No rent has been paid for over a year that is also in court.

The disrepair is in court too

Also he told the electrical company eon that there was a marijuana farm at my flat and this was the cause of the electrical ? in the property. This is also recorded and was passed onto action fraud.

8 flats he was collecting the money from the coin meters ever month and not paying the bill.

Because it was very high bill the landlord told them I had left the property because of a marijuana farm at my flat and all windows were painted black.

THIS OF COURSE IS ALL LIES.



So that issue is also in court for DEFAMATION my barrister has asked for 60k because of this.



Now all meters are outside in the same cupboard but updated.



I removed my meter off there fraudulent setup so I have my own meter and I pay 17£ per month and get my disability discount on electricity.

Before we were paying 50 to 80 per week in the winter, all 8 flats. One guy had his family round for Christmas he paid into the coin meter over £100.



I have faced harassment and it’s all on cctv I have evidence of everything. No hot water for over a year to today no heating. Breach of human rights. The energy Onbudsman upheld my complaints and issued compensation I refused it because it means I’m satisfied with the end result. NO WAY AM I SATISFIED.



This ROGUE LANDLORD never knew I’m a secret agent ??????

I wish lol.

I’m just a disabled tenant wanting to live safe. Is that to much to ask for?



Ahh also I forgot to say hes name is not on the land register but he signed statements of truth that he is. His illegal eviction WILL be struck out and I hope he gets put on the ROGUE LANDLORDS REGISTER

When I woke up this morning I could smell fire this is what I found. I only have 1 working plug socket in the whole flat I’m worried there is going to be a fire

 

[Raymond]

I don't think it's always as straight forward as just moving out for some people. If Raymond has the option to move out, then he should do that. If not, then he needs a solicitor.



Good luck Raymond.



Thank you so much you hit the nail on the head. I can’t move out. High risk group plus, this whole electrical situation with the land lord was the start of him trying to illegally evict me.



After 6 months of the hazard awareness notice landowners did nothing. The garden flat I live in had no planing permission, when I moved in he told me I could use one part as my kitchen, I have all evidence of that, even got it in a transcript to prove it too. I wasn’t aware at the time he could use that part of the flat. Camden council had already issued him notice. The housing team at camden have also breached there duties.



3 years later a power cut happened, this was one of so so many. Went 3 day with no electricity also the hmo was all down too. Because I’m disabled I had to have electricity cables over the wall to next door for use of electricity.



That was final for me. Because I have a protected characteristic and the landlord knows of my condition, this shouldn’t happen.



I reported to camden and they didn’t come out to do inspection to my flat or the hmo property that landlord was running without a licence for over a year.

Instead the EHO ISSUED prohibition order. But left me in the property. Technically I’m homeless. Made so by the landlord because flat not git enough to live in. So he must pay compensation or the local authority.



So I got a qualified electrician to visit the property and as soon as he opened the cupboard he said it’s a CODE 1 camden council ignored his response to this.



Cut this story short: ukpn supplied a 3 phase network and the landlord apparently has paid out over 30k.



We are in court I have an amazing solicitor and barrister. No rent has been paid for over a year that is also in court.

The disrepair is in court too

Also he told the electrical company eon that there was a marijuana farm at my flat and this was the cause of the electrical ? in the property. This is also recorded and was passed onto action fraud.

8 flats he was collecting the money from the coin meters ever month and not paying the bill.

Because it was very high bill the landlord told them I had left the property because of a marijuana farm at my flat and all windows were painted black.

THIS OF COURSE IS ALL LIES.



So that issue is also in court for DEFAMATION my barrister has asked for 60k because of this.



Now all meters are outside in the same cupboard but updated.



I removed my meter off there fraudulent setup so I have my own meter and I pay 17£ per month and get my disability discount on electricity.

Before we were paying 50 to 80 per week in the winter, all 8 flats. One guy had his family round for Christmas he paid into the coin meter over £100.



I have faced harassment and it’s all on cctv I have evidence of everything. No hot water for over a year to today no heating. Breach of human rights. The energy Onbudsman upheld my complaints and issued compensation I refused it because it means I’m satisfied with the end result. NO WAY AM I SATISFIED.



This ROGUE LANDLORD never knew I’m a secret agent ??????

I wish lol.

I’m just a disabled tenant wanting to live safe. Is that to much to ask for?



Ahh also I forgot to say hes name is not on the land register but he signed statements of truth that he is. His illegal eviction WILL be struck out and I hope he gets put on the ROGUE LANDLORDS REGISTER

I’m worried there will be a fire ? I woke up smelling burning and found this electric heater
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The electrician has done his job in identifying serious issues.

he has made it unsatisfactory and given 6 months Till next inspection.

he reports he was unable to test one board due to mess. ( mess is my words, he says neutrals and earths terminated in wrong sequence. we all know that’s code for mess). This is why he has not tested it all.

I have not read full report, but picked up that this electrician has done his job in so far as he knows its a mess and said so within his limits.

ok I agree I would word things differently,

i agree he hasn’t tested everything, but I possibly wouldn’t either if it means extra work not quoted for to put right before I could begin testing.

his coding seems ok to me, but some will rip that apart because of our different views On coding.



advice for Tennant.

It looks like notices have been issued to landlord to get things moving. The council are involved. Unfortunately these thing take time. And Under covid restriction will take longer.

Even if the landlord does acknowledge he needs to do something, it will take time to find contractors to do the job. and actually carrying out the works will take a fair bit of time.

a lot of landlords in my area are selling up due to the new electrical inspection laws out on 1st April. Your land lord may decide to sell up Rather than pay to get the works done. It’s going to cost a substantial amount to do.


If I was you and I was in a position to I would move out.

legally I’m afraid I dont believe there is anything you can do to speed things along.

I think the advice on going to your local MP surgery may help, but since the council are involved already then maybe it won’t.

good luck.

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[Deleted account]

you cannot continue like this. It’s disgusting. Someone really needs to get there finger out here.

anyone see the news yesterday regarding the local authority rentals in hackney. I was absolutely gobsmacked. Even the newsreader who is meant to be unbiast was shocked.
The electric sockets and lights full of water.
the inspector who visited said it was an immediately dangerous situation. Yet the electrics are still switched on and people were living there.

 

[Raymond]

you cannot continue like this. It’s disgusting. Someone really needs to get there finger out here.

anyone see the news yesterday regarding the local authority rentals in hackney. I was absolutely gobsmacked. Even the newsreader who is meant to be unbiast was shocked.
The electric sockets and lights full of water.
the inspector who visited said it was an immediately dangerous situation. Yet the electrics are still switched on and people were living there.

Camden council are a bunch of well I have string words for them.
I’m gonna see if I can find the news coverage.

 

[Deleted account]

The council flats judged the worst in Britain | ITV News

The pictures, filmed by ITV News at a London tower block, have been described by experts as the worst housing conditions they have ever seen. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

hope the link works

 

[DPG]

Saw that last night about Camden. Unbelievable. I would imagine someone will be for the high jump now that this has come out.

 

[Raymond]

Saw that last night about Camden. Unbelievable. I would imagine someone will be for the high jump now that this has come out.

What was said about camden? I can add there discriminating ways of service I’m totally sick of camden

 

[DPG]

What was said about camden? I can add there discriminating ways of service I’m totally sick of camden

I might need to check my facts. I thought the flats they were showing on the news yesterday with mould on the wall and wet carpets/electrics were in Camden.

Edit: Apologies, it was Croydon.

 

[James]

The council flats judged the worst in Britain | ITV News

The pictures, filmed by ITV News at a London tower block, have been described by experts as the worst housing conditions they have ever seen. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

hope the link works

I don't think people should be fired for failing these people like that.

I think they should be JAILED.

 

[Lister1987]

A massive part of me (possibly naively) can't believe a) something can get THAT bad b) the poor residents having done everything to try and get it sorted c) The housing ombudsman hasn't got involved d) The MHCLG hasn't got involved.

If it was my gaff I'd be camping in thier office until it gets sorted.

 

[Deleted account]

If it was my gaff I'd be camping in thier office until it gets sorted.

changes in the law regarding peaceful protests may stop you doing this.

 

[Lister1987]

changes in the law regarding peaceful protests may stop you doing this.

and recently new laws allegedly were meant to stop this from happening too but here we are. I think it'd be hard for the council to prosecute in court, don't you?