Electrical safety in the kitchen.

[KEV 1 N]

Kev's been up to his old tricks again

See I’m getting the blame again!

 

[Pete999]

See I’m getting the blame again!

Not unless you are Kev the ubiquitous Kitchen fitter

 

[gnuuser]

With respect gnuuser, I thought the US was was to stick the hot and N in a Screw-it, to cause the breaker to trip if someone accidentally energised the circuit, please correct me if I have my wires crossed no pun intended.

good one! we see a lot of crap done by homeowners that make you want to choke the crap out of them.
I don't mind if they want to do the work as long as they get proper training.(and that includes a minimum of 4 years apprenticeship)
even a college grad with an associates degree or bachelors degree in electrical engineering had to do the minimum apprenticeship for journeyman in my old shop.

 

[gnuuser]

i also use wago's myself
(ive seen too many wire nuts twisted on enough to break the wire or the plastic cap)

 

[KEV 1 N]

Not unless you are Kev the ubiquitous Kitchen fitter

No I’ve never been to Stoke on Trent.

 

[elsparko]

Classic sign of a wannabe spark - does half the job, thinking its OK.

Dare I ask if they gave you any certificates for the electrical changes?

do kitchen companies even employ sparks? ive only ever seen joiners call us out once they disconnect and can get nothing to work again, (usually loop in lighting)

same with builders, they will generally have a go themselves before allowing their ego to be destroyed

 

[elsparko]

having just sorted a call out the other day to a poorly fitted socket under a sink where there are a plethora of pipes joined right above said socket

are those twist on connectors? so shady lol

 

[elsparko]

if i was you id take pictures of any other offending work done by kitchen company, in the meantime get someone out to sort that mess under the units before it causes a mischief


then charge all work to make good to the kitchen company via small claims

 

[elsparko]

If the customer gets a 3rd party to put this right , the numptie that did this won't learn.............

would you want said numptie fixing his ---- up if he did not realise he had even ----ed up?

i dont touch gas pipes because i know my limitations, wish joiners and builders would do the same regarding sticking to what they know

one of my other callouts is to a new build, there is so much movement in the buildings foundations that the windows are smashing, the plasterboard in the top flat has moved an inch away from the ceiling

i get annoyed that people are being paid to do something well, but they half arse it and run with the cash

cutting corners is a sign of poor work ethic

 

[elsparko]

i hope the joinery work at least redeems itself in this kitchen

 

[Octopus]

would you want said numptie fixing his **** up if he did not realise he had even ****ed up?

Under some form of supervision and inspection yes ...

 

[Toneyz]

Well were just have to wait for our representative reports back.

 

[123]

if i was you id take pictures of any other offending work done by kitchen company, in the meantime get someone out to sort that mess under the units before it causes a mischief


then charge all work to make good to the kitchen company via small claims

I don't think you can do that, you have to give them a chance to put it right first.

 

[Spoon]

... you have to give them a chance to put it right first.

OP: Just tell that whoever they send round you want to see their electrical qualifications first... and you want a cert at the end of the work as proof it's all ok.

 

[elsparko]

I don't think you can do that, you have to give them a chance to put it right first.

the standard of work done would make me not let them in my home incase they made it even worse

im sure the court would be understanding? kitchens aint cheap, id expect it right first time minus a few minor snags, but this is basic stuff, unclipped cables "connected" via twist on connectors, didnt even realise these were an option in britain

only heard of their use in less educated countries.

 

[123]

I wouldn't be too keen on letting them back in to fix their mess either, but you can't just bring someone else in and then bill the kitchen company for it.

 

[123]

Also don't think twist on connectors have been used, both pictures look like Wago's, the 2nd one is just a real bad mess of someone trying (and failing) at taping up the cable

 

[telectrix]

looking at OP's 1st pic. the muppets have actually twisted 2 cpc's and bodged them into 1 hole of the wago.

call the kitchen company and demand a visit from manager. show him the problems, backed up if needed by forum posts. then demand to have it put right, but not by the original contractors. insist he sends a qualified electrician.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

looking at OP's 1st pic. the muppets have actually twisted 2 cpc's and bodged them into 1 hole of the wago.

They did that in case the Wago fell off.

 

[Andi TN]

Thanks for all the replies.
I sent a strongly worded email to the Installation company on Monday, and today had a qualified electrician come out to fix all the issues. After he had stopped swearing about how it had been left on the floor under a sink unit, he then proceeded to put the connections into boxes and removed any cables that were surplus to requirements.
I feel a lot safer now.