Finding a decent plumber!!!!!

[Richard Burns]

It's pointless if whatever's being bonded is NOT extraneous. Just a waste of bonding clamps and 10mm earth

Perhaps?

 

[Guitarist]

The age-old issue of bonding is one which I feel will haunt us for many a year to come. Even with a plastic incomer which is checked to NOT be an extraneous conductive part, but with copper pipework after the stopcock, most sparkies will bond anyway just to shut everyone up who doesn't have a clue, and says "you know you should have bonded that!"
All that said, I bet there are plenty of electricians out there who don't know how to carry out the correct test for whether something is an ECP anyway.

 

[Simonslimline]

The age-old issue of bonding is one which I feel will haunt us for many a year to come. Even with a plastic incomer which is checked to NOT be an extraneous conductive part, but with copper pipework after the stopcock, most sparkies will bond anyway just to shut everyone up who doesn't have a clue, and says "you know you should have bonded that!"
All that said, I bet there are plenty of electricians out there who don't know how to carry out the correct test for whether something is an ECP anyway.

Guidance note 8 explains it well. How to test if it is extraneous or not is something we were not taught at college, we were just taught what extraneous conductive parts are and why we bond them.

 

[Amp David]

Perhaps?

Thanks mr burns, should proof read before posting

 

[Guitarist]

Guidance note 8 explains it well. How to test if it is extraneous or not is something we were not taught at college, we were just taught what extraneous conductive parts are and why we bond them.

I agree. From some of the posts on here though, it's obvious that GN8 doesn't explain it quite well enough for some people.

 

[telectrix]

the question will always be "is it extraneous or extra terrestial?"

 

[Knobhead]

I was asked to cast my beady eye over a flat conversion. Nothing official, what did I think of the general standard of workmanship.

Electrical:
Safe zones? What are they?
I know of three joints hidden in the wall. The plumber is a crack shot when it comes to cables.
A sub board with a 25mm 3c SWA. I think they used an axe to make it off

Plastering:
Abysmal is being nice.

Plumbing:
An en-suite you can only sit on the toilet @45° the sink is in the way.
Then I found this

The kitchen fitter is a brilliant craftsman and refuses to touch electrics or plumbing. He leaves that to the others to wreck his work.


This is a money no object job. The guy that asked me to have a look wasn’t happy as I walked away shaking my head.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I was asked to cast my beady eye over a flat conversion. Nothing official, what did I think of the general standard of workmanship.

Electrical:
Safe zones? What are they?
I know of three joints hidden in the wall. The plumber is a crack shot when it comes to cables.
A sub board with a 25mm 3c SWA. I think they used an axe to make it off

Plastering:
Abysmal is being nice.

Plumbing:
An en-suite you can only sit on the toilet @45° the sink is in the way.
Then I found this

The kitchen fitter is a brilliant craftsman and refuses to touch electrics or plumbing. He leaves that to the others to wreck his work.


This is a money no object job. The guy that asked me to have a look wasn’t happy as I walked away shaking my head.

Ok ... so the plumber ran short of pipe clips. How else was he supposed to secure the pipe to stop it rattling in the notch??

You might be a canny sparky, but ye've got a lot to learn aboot plumbing bonny lad.

 

[shanky887614]

if in doubt bond everything XD how can they complain if everything is bonded.

its like zones only sparkies really understand the zones we work to

 

[stratplus]

Ok ... so the plumber ran short of pipe clips. How else was he supposed to secure the pipe to stop it rattling in the notch??

You might be a canny sparky, but ye've got a lot to learn aboot plumbing bonny lad.

Think he might be referring to a screwed pipe?
Hairfelt lagging in notches.