HELP PLEASE!!! 2365/615 electrical system designs

[John J]

So I’ve recently started my level 3 course and I’m doing electrical system designs the one with the hotel extension and pool and cafe block I’ve done question 1 but stuck on all of question 2 some guidance would be appreciated thanks.

 

[H]

Any chance you could put the question on here, screenshot etc?

 

[John J]

Here

 

[JAWS]

Just reading through that scares the hell out of me. Not looking forward to this unit at all.

 

[Strima]

Don't treat the question as a whole, break it down into its individual parts.

So for part A search online for luminaires and select ones that fill the criteria in the question.

For example 600x600mm LED panel lights 40w rating 4000K colour. Some units will be fitted with 3 hour emergency backup units to comply with emergency lighting regulations.

Units will have to have a suitable IP rating to use within the pool area, refer to section 7 of BS7671 for specific IP ratings in pool areas etc etc.

 

[John J]

@Strima thanks for the guidance much appreciated

 

[Loki]

Here

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Hi John,

I'm currently doing the same project.

The hotel rooms are like premier inns rooms. sockets either side of beds, 2 double socket on table for tv, kettle etc & socket by the sofa, heater fcu by the door & towel rail fcu outside of the bathroom.
CU in each room by the door.

when i get back home i'll convert my visio file to pdf & pm you so you can take a look.

maybe we can buddy up on this & throw ideas about?

Michael

 

[John J]

@Loki be much appreciated completely lost Atm

 

[Silly Sausage]

For a further hint:
I used to Inspect hotels, each floor had a distribution board supplying small (4 or 6 way) boards in each room. Maybe a power cct, lights, shower etc ...

 

[Loki]

@John J I can't PM you as you have limited who can see your profile.
PM me & I'll send you my PDF file

 

[MFS Electrical]

You should consider joining the trainee area

 

[Toneyz]

Hi John,

I'm currently doing the same project.

The hotel rooms are like premier inns rooms. sockets either side of beds, 2 double socket on table for tv, kettle etc & socket by the sofa, heater fcu by the door & towel rail fcu outside of the bathroom.
CU in each room by the door.

when i get back home i'll convert my visio file to pdf & pm you so you can take a look.

maybe we can buddy up on this & throw ideas about?

Michael

Do they have consumer units in each room?

 

[Loki]

Do they have consumer units in each room?

Yes helps make it easier for load balancing on 3phase & also for not inducing faults into other rooms when a fault occurs.

Also hallway has CU

 

[Toneyz]

Yes helps make it easier for load balancing on 3phase & also for not inducing faults into other rooms when a fault occurs.

Also hallway has CU

I take it that this is locked away behind an access panel.

 

[Loki]

I take it that this is locked away behind an access panel.

In premier inns the CU is usally by the bedroom door up in the corner.​

 

[freddo]

Yes and the last one I looked in was a right untidy mess, and it was only 4 circuits!

 

[alx]

Hi, I am doing level 3 electrical system deign assignments and I need some help please.

 

[alx]

Hi, I am doing level 3 electrical system deign assignments and I need some help please. could you share with me your work, pls? ​

 

[alx]

Hi, I am doing level 3 electrical system deign assignments and I need some help please. could you share with me your work,​

Here

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pls?

 

[alx]

Hi, I am doing level 3 electrical system deign assignments and I need some help please.​

 

[Loki]

Hi, I am doing level 3 electrical system deign assignments and I need some help please.​

ok thats fine, whats your question?

 

[alx]

I’ve recently started my level 3 course and I’m doing electrical system designs the one with the hotel extension and pool and café block but I stuck on all of question some guidance would be appreciated thanks

 

[mrd]

rather than doing my drawing for the hotel room by hand is there a software i could use, because drawing all the cables on paper looks messy

 

[Loki]

rather than doing my drawing for the hotel room by hand is there a software i could use, because drawing all the cables on paper looks messy

Im doing mine in microsoft visio

 

[Toneyz]

So I’ve recently started my level 3 course and I’m doing electrical system designs the one with the hotel extension and pool and cafe block I’ve done question 1 but stuck on all of question 2 some guidance would be appreciated thanks.

Am I missing something here on these courses are they not supposed to teach you something followed by you use this learning and use it to complete the project?

 

[Loki]

Am I missing something here on these courses are they not supposed to teach you something followed by you use this learning and use it to complete the project?

I agree anthonybragg
Seems to that a lot of new members joining today & yesterday are wanting help but their not asking any questions other than can i see your project so i know what to do?
Sorry but your designing it not me, im happy to respond to specific questions but remember like you im also on a time limit doing my project.
Maybe show a mentor via pm what you have done so they can then guide you in the right direction?

 

[Silly Sausage]

I’ve recently started my level 3 course and I’m doing electrical system designs the one with the hotel extension and pool and café block but I stuck on all of question some guidance would be appreciated thanks

The traditional response to this is: Give it a go, show us your attempt and people will critic it.
You'll learn bugger all copying other people's work.

Harsh but fair!

 

[jethro peirson]

does anyone have a PDF copy of the original paper please, currently doing this project and cant get another copy printed by end of the month

 

[Hibbo99]

Can anyone help with question 2f it says show on the copy of the drawing any further distribution boards that may be required in the hotel extension.
Obviously there’s 1 for each room so that’s 14 but I don’t know anywhere else that I’d need one, Anyone give any advice?

 

[Charlie_]

Shame they didn’t have these forums when I was doing the c course, there may have been more than just the 2 of us left on the course

 

[ipf]

Shame they didn’t have these forums when I was doing the c course, there may have been more than just the 2 of us left on the course

Do you mean the old C cert C&G technician graded, the one I did back in the 70's. If so, that was some course and used to be worth a great deal.....and now, all the JIB give me on a gold card is regs and T&I.
Regarding forums, I don't think we'd even got our hands on a calculator.

 

[Hibbo99]

Guessing that’s a noI’ll try and figure it out

 

[Charlie_]

Yes that’s the one!
I did it in about 94/95..
it was very hard and required a lot of work and very good lecturers...
Probably why it ended up getting scrapped..
It was a well respected qualification which unfortunately doesn’t seem to have much clout these days apart from those that are more old school

 

[Toneyz]

Do you mean the old C cert C&G technician graded, the one I did back in the 70's. If so, that was some course and used to be worth a great deal.....and now, all the JIB give me on a gold card is regs and T&I.
Regarding forums, I don't think we'd even got our hands on a calculator.

When I did mine late 80's/90's we used acetate overlays sometimes today I think that they should still use it as with doing it with AutoCAD they still manage to clash sockets behind rads etc.

 

[ipf]

Yes that’s the one!
I did it in about 94/95..
it was very hard and required a lot of work and very good lecturers...
Probably why it ended up getting scrapped..
It was a well respected qualification which unfortunately doesn’t seem to have much clout these days apart from those that are more old school

They'd already downgraded it by then, believe it or not. Still a great qualification to have, though.
Three basic sections, Regs, electrical principles and project.
Some thought they'd hit the heights with the 'B cert' (Approved Electrician)

 

[Charlie_]

And no internet for doing research, we had to get all the catalogues out, trawl through pages of specs, all calculations done from our own books..
And we all wonder why the trade has drastically dumbed down... to quote Mr Trump... SAD

 

[Toneyz]

And no internet for doing research, we had to get all the catalogues out, trawl through pages of specs, all calculations done from our own books..

Yes I remember it well

 

[Charlie_]

Compare that to the farce of an exam I did last week.. 18th edition, multiple choice and you take the regs in with you..
The most difficult task was having to multiply a number by itself due to the calculators we had to use having no square function

 

[ipf]

Yes I remember it well

Ah.....sounds like Maurice Chevalier

 

[saeed zaman]

So I’ve recently started my level 3 course and I’m finding hard to understand assessment 615 electrical system designs the one with the hotel extension and pool and cafe block I stuck on all of questions some guidance would be appreciated thanks.

 

[goasis]

Is there an echo in here?

 

[nzz8sj]

Hi John,

I'm currently doing the same project.

The hotel rooms are like premier inns rooms. sockets either side of beds, 2 double socket on table for tv, kettle etc & socket by the sofa, heater fcu by the door & towel rail fcu outside of the bathroom.
CU in each room by the door.

when i get back home i'll convert my visio file to pdf & pm you so you can take a look.

maybe we can buddy up on this & throw ideas about?

Michael

Hi Michael

Ref 2365 615 Electrical Design Task A Question 3

Would you have copy of blank table templates used for this project please.
for example used to record Selection of protective devices and other thanks

 

[Loki]

Hi Michael

Ref 2365 615 Electrical Design Task A Question 3

Would you have copy of blank table templates used for this project please.
for example used to record Selection of protective devices and other thanks

Hi,

Your training provider should give you a template form?

Here's what we were given.

 

[KennyKen]

J-Notation aka complex numbers was what I remember about the Part C.

Vector and Phasor ratios.


I don’t want to seem disrespectful but some of the lads here need to have a go. Thats the only way you learn.

 

[nzz8sj]

Hi,

Your training provider should give you a template form?

Here's what we were given.

Thanks for your quick reply could i trouble you for question 4 templates please regarding IB. IN. METHOD. CABLE SIZE ETC PLEASE

 

[MarioNetKa]

Hi guys found this 2 symbols in my assignment.
need to identify them, could anyone tell me please what these things are ?

 

[Loki]

Hi guys found this 2 symbols in my assignment.
need to identify them, could anyone tell me please what these things are ?View attachment 55313View attachment 55315View attachment 55307

Its in the specs.

1st pic. Feed for Hand dryer

2nd pic. Feed for alarm

3rd pic looks like one of my posts when i did my design project as these are not on the original drawings neither are the sockets or CU.
Towel rail feed by bathroom
Heating feed by CU

 

[MarioNetKa]

@Loki Now I am super confused...
Thats what I have done...can u take a look ?