Hi All, Quick intro and thinking of a career change, so need some advice

[godzilla]

These guys are in Cardiff... they don't show an evening option on their website... but call them ? See what they say ?

True Tech Training UK's Number 1 For Electrical Courses & Electrician Training - City & Guilds 2365 Level 2 Diploma in Electrical Installations (Building and Structures)

The Level 2 Electrical Installations diploma (2365) is for anyone who would like to become a qualified Electrician in the Domestic, Commercial or Industrial sector and does not already have an Electrical Apprenticeship or even a job working in the Electrical Industry.

www.truetechtraining.uk

Thanks Z,

Its looking more and more like its going to be a centre and will going to cost a arm and leg job!

Local College is full and wont let you do level 2. A college is Cardiff, I have left a message for call back as you can't get through to them, might have something there.

They do have a load of mini basic home electrics intros (p/t sessions over a couple for weeks)! I might get on them in the mean time just to get a taste of looking at wire diagrams and intro into regs.

They also had a PAT course, 18th regs and H&S courses. I think they are a little more setup for tech stuff, might get lucky there, if I get through to them as they might have something else to offer.

Apart from that, its looking like centres, either local and see what they charge (tech) and compare than to some of the far afield one from me like morris, trade skills etc. Either way, its going to be a expensive choice to retrain.

 

[godzilla]

Latest update,

Heard back from the college and they said I need to do level 1 and can be put on a waiting list if a place comes available as its full.

But looking at the learning info this is level 1

"Follow health and safety regulations and legislations at all times • Select the appropriate tools and materials for a given task • Terminate and wire single phase lighting and power circuits found in domestic dwellings • Carryout the basic inspections and testing procedures for the required wiring systems • To use fabrication techniques for electrical enclosures and support systems, such as PVC and steel conduit, trunking and tray work systems."

This is Level 2

"You will study four units, which are: Effective & Safe Working; Principals of Electro Technology; Health & Safety & Electrical Principles and Installation."

Requirements stated

"You will require 4 GCSEs at grades A*- D including English, Maths and Science or another Level 1 qualification."

So level 1 not necessary...I think and course info also states

"This course is suitable for learners with no previous experience of electrical installation. It will incorporate the basic skills of the craft and an introduction to the supervisory areas of the industry. The qualification recognises your job knowledge and tests the skills you have acquired."

Really unsure what to do as level 1 - I have done a bit of wiring and risk assessment work before.

And as everyone says it looks really basic.

Any thoughts

 

[Zerax]

The system is the system...

I had a similar thing when I did the amateur radio exams a few years back... There are 3 levels; Foundation, Intermediate and Advanced. You must do them in that order, NO exceptions. For the Foundation stage, we had an 8 year old taking the exam ! Kinda makes you wonder what it's all about...

 

[godzilla]

Yip total madness,

Level 2 2365 you can go straight into in some places, but colleges insist level 1. But their requirements state, you don't need any experience for level 2 or just 4 gcses or a level 1. The requirements are just mental and make no sense.

Me and my son both did the basic radio course and waiting to do our Intermediate .

My son was about 10/11 I think, but now he's too busy with his gcse's!

All the grandads in the place were well chuffed, when the wee man passed.

Just wait for a reply, worse case is a waiting list for level 1. If no place, its next year for college for level 1. Looking at that, I will be in my 50's by the time I qualify.

Unless I sell my body parts to go on a training course.

The system is the system...

I had a similar thing when I did the amateur radio exams a few years back... There are 3 levels; Foundation, Intermediate and Advanced. You must do them in that order, NO exceptions. For the Foundation stage, we had an 8 year old taking the exam ! Kinda makes you wonder what it's all about...

 

[telectrix]

crazy. my son left school with no gcse's whatever (long story, irrelevant). he did a couple of yearsworking with a spark, then went straight into level 2 evenings at local college.

 

[godzilla]

College came back and stated the Dept said that level 1 work is carried into level 2, so it does not allow anyone going straight to level 2.

Totally baffled by that, not even sure what City & Guilds they are running.

Asked to be put on the waiting list incase someone drops out for level 1.

Waiting game now, but will look at some courses in a Cardiff which offer some basic home electrics tasters for about £30 for a couple of weeks.

Stuck at the moment.

 

[JAWS]

That's weird, a mature student you should go straight in to level 2. The level 1 courses are normally for those who go full time & leaving school without the relevant grades.

I take it this course is a Part/time course?

You really do not want to spend a year on the level 1 as you'll learn everything what you'd learn on the level 1 on the level 2.

 

[godzilla]

Yes P/T, I know, I am totally stumped on hearing their reply as they took nothing on board of my Science degree and 30+ years work experience!

Specially, since you need no qualifications to enter into level1! but 4 gcses or a level 1 qualification to go into level 2.

It's a real shame, totally putting me off.

I spoke to a owner of a building company who came to fit the worktop over the weekend (my cousins friend, who came in last min as our original fitter pulled out).

Turned out to be a qualified Spark for many years. He said college is the way forward, but advise against the centers, that was his 2 pence!

Oddly enough, he said level 1 was basic too over the weekend!

The only other route will be the C&G 2365, if college is out.

That's weird, a mature student you should go straight in to level 2. The level 1 courses are normally for those who go full time & leaving school without the relevant grades.

I take it this course is a Part/time course?

You really do not want to spend a year on the level 1 as you'll learn everything what you'd learn on the level 1 on the level 2.

 

[JAWS]

Ahh what was the qualification for the level 1 called Godzilla?

 

[godzilla]

It's a intro course and some of its info, ths leads to a level 2 Elec Inst.

Looking at the pages - 2 evenings per week, 3 hrs sessions.

Level 1 Diploma in Introduction to Electrical Installation


"Follow health and safety regulations and legislations at all times • Select the appropriate tools and materials for a given task • Terminate and wire single phase lighting and power circuits found in domestic dwellings • Carryout the basic inspections and testing procedures for the required wiring systems • To use fabrication techniques for electrical enclosures and support systems, such as PVC and steel conduit, trunking and tray work systems."


"No formal entry requirements
You will be invited to attend an interview, and will undertake an assessment in literacy and numeracy, to establish any support required."

On a waiting list for it, but really undecided

Ahh what was the qualification for the level 1 called Godzilla?