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  1. Bellendian
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    Bellendian Active EF Member

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    As the title really....been asked to 2nd fix a couple of new builds....original contractor no longer available, I don't know why. 1st fix completed, everything plastered up...
    Somehow these houses need to be completed, but I'm not signing an EIC stating that I've first fixed when I haven't...
    This must come up all the time, so I guess their must be a workable solution that keeps everyone happy?

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  2. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    The electrician must have belonged to a scheme, what do yours and theirs advise?
     
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  3. 123
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    I'd find out why existing contractor is no longer available.

    I got asked to do similar with a new build a couple of years ago. Turns out existing contractor wouldn't return as he hadn't been paid for the works. And on a little further digging nor had most trades on the job.
     
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  4. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    That's strictly not true. The BC may accept their qualifications and allow them to notify directly ...
     
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    you need your eyes wide open on this one op ,I would think like 123.alarm bells might start ring .
     
  6. Murdoch
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    First contractor not available ................ probably owed lots of money ....
     
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    which scam are you with op .
     
  8. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    the pages are open till the post is finished .take your time we have all night .
     
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  9. Midwest
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    I with the OP, guess it happens on more than one occasion, you know what builders (developer's) are like. When monies involved I bet it gets swept under the concrete carpet.
     
  10. Bellendian
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    Ha! I'm with nic, apparently original guy was as well. Nic reckon one option is to see if bco will accept eicr rather than eic to enable bco to issue a completion cert. I.e. I would not notify the work via self cert scheme, bco would issue part p compliance, and I would issue eicr to confirm all my work in order....
    What bothers me is what happens when I'm testing, and turns out IR is ****ed since cable pinched or screwed through as 1st fix was pony.....
    It's gonna be daywork I think...
     
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    looks like:
     
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  12. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    you know the nic do not do third party , so it down to the builder to sort that out .not you .
    good luck if it was me I would walk away .just remember your insurance has well .
     
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  13. anthonybragg
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    In that case, there will be a paper trail of who done the work.
    You'll all hellbent on thinking the worst have you ever thought that the original electrician may have had to stop working for health reasons for example. This can't have been the first time that this has happened. You know who the contractor was he may well be able to sign off an electrical installation certificate for the first fix. Before you take on this contract this is something that you need to address with the builder regarding issues outside your contracted role. The NICEIC and LBC should be helping you to do the right thing this may well be that this is now through LBC and the extra cost taken out of the previous electrician's retention monies.
     
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  14. Bellendian
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    Bellendian Active EF Member

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    Yeah, we aren't talking 3rd party here, even if nic did operate such a scheme, i'd only sign off if i'd witnessed 1st fix before boarding.
    Eicr route effectively means bco taking responsibility for first fix as I see it. Question is; will they? Find out tomorrow I guess...
     
  15. Murdoch
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    Not all BCO's will accept EICR's .........
     
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