Part P for a builder/maintenance worker with learning difficulties

[relinquiae]

Hi,

Apologies if this has been asked before, but there is so much info on the internet that I don't know where to look or what info to trust!
I am asking on behalf of my dad, who has been a builder/maintenance worker all his working life. He is looking to do a part P course/qualification, so that he can install cookers, changing sockets, fit new lights etc. on his jobs.
He is a very skilled in practical work, but he is severely dyslexic so finds writing and reading a real struggle. So, I have two questions for you please:

What is a trusted company to go to, to get his Part P training? (he is based in Dorset/Hampshire)

Is there lots of writing and reading involved in the qualification, or is it mostly practical work (suitable for someone who cannot write competently)?

Thanks in advance for your responses,

Relinquiae

 

[telectrix]

not being disrespectful, but with dyslexia, would he be able to complete test certificates for work done? and just for the 17th course and exam, a lot of reading is involved.

 

[MDJ]

What's part P training got to do with competence in electrical contracting? Whilst I'm on, what is part P training about?

 

[Silly Sausage]

Whilst I'm on, what is part P training about?

Free enterprise at its worst.
No need for me to explain further!

 

[relinquiae]

not being disrespectful, but with dyslexia, would he be able to complete test certificates for work done? and just for the 17th course and exam, a lot of reading is involved.

No disrespect taken, it's a relevant question

He can fill out forms if they are simple, or, if they are consistent in their format, he can learn the layout (He has a great memory)

Is there any books that he specifically needs? I can have a look and see if it's manageable for him.
His comprehension is great, it's just the act of reading he can't do. as for the books and the exam, I wonder if he could get a "translator" to read it out to him, like is available for A-levels these days.

 

[Octopus]

Out of interest why does your dad want to go to the stress of such a qualification if he's going to find all the paperwork and form filling difficult.

As for reading, try wading through BS7671 amendment 2011 - its about £70.00 for starters.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Out of interest why does your dad want to go to the stress of such a qualification if he's going to find all the paperwork and form filling difficult.

As for reading, try wading through BS7671 amendment 2011 - its about £70.00 for starters.

It's bad enough for us 'Normal' people, what snowball's chance in hell does a dyslexic have!!!!!!

 

[Octopus]

It's bad enough for us 'Normal' people, what snowball's chance in hell does a dyslexic have!!!!!!

he did ask!

I'm not trying to put him off but knowing your way around the big green book is vital.

 

[relinquiae]

Out of interest why does your dad want to go to the stress of such a qualification if he's going to find all the paperwork and form filling difficult.

As for reading, try wading through BS7671 amendment 2011 - its about £70.00 for starters.

He does things like fix foundations, refits kitchens, build extensions, and usually has to end up for an electrician's availability to do a simple task, like fit a cooker, which he can do, but can't because of the part p qualification he needs. The electrician he uses suggested part p to him as being called out to fit a cooker, or change a socket, isn't good use of his time for the amount the job pays.
Not saying part p covers everything he needs, as he has often built houses etc that has created massive jobs for his electrician.. it's just the tiny jobs that his sparky is getting annoyed with!

If there is a lot of reading he needs to do, and to know it inside out, I'd probably say it isn't possible for him then, unfortunately. Thanks for answering.

 

[Octopus]

He does things like fix foundations, refits kitchens, build extensions, and usually has to end up for an electrician's availability to do a simple task, like fit a cooker, which he can do, but can't because of the part p qualification he needs. The electrician he uses suggested part p to him as being called out to fit a cooker, or change a socket, isn't good use of his time for the amount the job pays.
Not saying part p covers everything he needs, as he has often built houses etc that has created massive jobs for his electrician.. it's just the tiny jobs that his sparky is getting annoyed with!

If there is a lot of reading he needs to do, and to know it inside out, I'd probably say it isn't possible for him then, unfortunately. Thanks for answering.

If the spark he normally uses doesn't want "his" work then maybe dad should find a new, more eager one. I do lots of small "works" for a variety of builders/kitchen fitters/plumbers/bathroom guys and enjoy the work. Where in Hampshire are you?

 

[Marvo]

To be honest if his sparky is complaining about some of the jobs being too small or inconvenient he probably should look for another sparky that really wants the work. By the time he's paid through the nose for a course which he's probably going to struggle with because of dyslexia and he's stumped up more cash for the basic requirements (insurance, test equipment etc) to get registered with a scheme and he's had his pants pulled down for the scheme membership fee it's going to cost more than it's worth unless he's doing electrical installation work full time.

 

[relinquiae]

If the spark he normally uses doesn't want "his" work then maybe dad should find a new, more eager one. I do lots of small "works" for a variety of builders/kitchen fitters/plumbers/bathroom guys and enjoy the work.

Yeah, my dad is a man of habits. The spark is great at the big jobs, but keeps dad waiting 3 - weeks for the small ones... clearly doesn't want them.
Its good to hear that some guys enjoy the smaller stuff.. I'll try and guide him towards someone more willing!
(I'm an I.T girl ... I fit the stereotype and have no idea about all this stuff!)
Thanks for the tips.

 

[relinquiae]

To be honest if his sparky is complaining about some of the jobs being too small or inconvenient he probably should look for another sparky that really wants the work. By the time he's paid through the nose for a course which he's probably going to struggle with because of dyslexia and he's stumped up more cash for the basic requirements (insurance, test equipment etc) to get registered with a scheme and he's had his pants pulled down for the scheme membership fee it's going to cost more than it's worth unless he's doing electrical installation work full time.

Cheers for the advice. I'm completely ignorant to all this and my dad is stuck with the same work ethics and planning of the 1990s, he only ever takes on contractors by word of mouth.. I'll have to show him how to use a computer and get him on the review sites!

 

[derek]

There is no part P qualification, it is part of the building regulations. Planning Portal - Part P (Electrical Safety)
There are competent person schemes which he may have to join if he meets certain criteria or he'll have to pay a fee to LABC if he wants to do work that requires notification. In order to carry out electrical work a person must be competent as defined in BS 7671. Calibrated test equipment and the understanding of how to use it is a must as is the understanding of how to design, install and fault find. Appropriate insurance is also required.

 

[Octopus]

Yeah, my dad is a man of habits. The spark is great at the big jobs, but keeps dad waiting 3 - weeks for the small ones... clearly doesn't want them.
Its good to hear that some guys enjoy the smaller stuff.. I'll try and guide him towards someone more willing!
(I'm an I.T girl ... I fit the stereotype and have no idea about all this stuff!)
Thanks for the tips.

Where in Hampshire are you?

 

[relinquiae]

Where in Hampshire are you?

I'm in lymington, but he is in Bournemouth. He's working on a long project in the new milton/christcurch area at the mo I think.

 

[HandySparks]

Where in Hampshire are you?

Looks to be the other side from us, Murdoch. Post 1: "he is based in Dorset/Hampshire".

Be nice to know for sure, though. I'm sure there'll be a few on here from around there.

 

[Octopus]

Looks to be the other side from us, Murdoch. Post 1: "he is based in Dorset/Hampshire".

Be nice to know for sure, though. I'm sure there'll be a few on here from around there.

I wasn't thinking about me, but people who "are vague" about their location don't exactly help themselves

 

[relinquiae]

I wasn't thinking about me, but people who "are vague" about their location don't exactly help themselves

He travels all over for work. so I wasn't being vague. I was saying Dorset/Hampshire is is usual range for travel. He is on the edge of both Dorset and Hampshire, so I thought it made sense to say those are the two counties he was looking for training in.

 

[Octopus]

He travels all over for work. so I wasn't being vague. I was saying Dorset/Hampshire is is usual range for travel. He is on the edge of both Dorset and Hampshire, so I thought it made sense to say those are the two counties he was looking for training in.

Maybe the spark he is using is frustrated by having to travel long distances for small jobs!