Part P minor works

[smartspark]

Do I have to issue a minor works if I modify or extend a ring main in the main house if it runs through the kitchen on one circuit, even if I haven't touched a thing in the kitchen? I would say yes, but who am I?

 

[Sintra]

If you extend a ring circuit anywhere you need to issue a MWC.

 

[telectrix]

if you don't do anything in the kitchen, means you should get away without notifying, but as sintra says. test and MWC essential.

 

[smartspark]

Elecsa notifiable list says no need for a MWC unless in the special locations??? ie: bathrooms and kitchens

 

[telectrix]

wrong. no need to notify building control. read again and write out 100 times. naughty boy

 

[Johnny-G]

That Elecsa table is a general list of what's notifiable not what requires either a MWC or EIC.
It also states this :

Note that even if a minor work installation does not need to be
certified as complying with Part P, a minor works test/inspection
results certificate must still be completed.

 

[smartspark]

Hang on telectrix, You said I was to do a MWC???

wrong. no need to notify building control. read again and write out 100 times. naughty boy

 

[Sintra]

You do have to do a MWC have a look at brb reg. 631.3

 

[mrmatt]

MWC only no notification needed

 

[smartspark]

That quote says may be issued, not should or must be issued. I`m going to call the powers that be tomoz.

You do have to do a MWC have a look at brb reg. 631.3

 

[Sintra]

Yes may be issued as an alternative to a EIC. Read the whole thing.

 

[telectrix]

Hang on telectrix, You said I was to do a MWC???

yes. i said you had to do a MWC, but not notify. you were saying the elecsa guidance said you didn't have to do a MWC.

 

[smartspark]

Still doesn't say I have to issue a cert of any kind.

 

[Sintra]

Still doesn't say I have to issue a cert of any kind.

Have a read of 633.1 additions and alterations & 610.4

 

[smartspark]

610.4 is a verification. the cable is of correct size, socket is switched and not inter connected. Still doesn't say I have to issue a MWC or EIC. Although this would help to verify the circuit. Still says may be issued, not must or should.

 

[Sintra]

610.4 is a verification. the cable is of correct size, socket is switched and not inter connected. Still doesn't say I have to issue a MWC or EIC. Although this would help to verify the circuit. Still says may be issued, not must or should.

Mate you are making this hard read on down to 610.6 where it says "On the completion of the verification, according to regulations 610.1 to 610.5 a certificate shall be prepared."

 

[telectrix]

bear in mind thar the regs. we work to are the brb, BS7671. if elecsa want to say different, it's a free country, but i know who i believe. btw, is the 17th amendment going to be formatted in testaments?

 

[smartspark]

Sorry mate, I dont mean to be hard work, Ive been doing my 2391 and everything is so precise, this reg says shall be prepared. Saying all this the BS7671 is not law, and there are always people shoving in spurs and all sorts without the knowledge or equipment to test.

Mate you are making this hard read on down to 610.6 where it says "On the completion of the verification, according to regulations 610.1 to 610.5 a certificate shall be prepared."

 

[Sintra]

At the end of the day what is the big deal about filling out a MWC.
You have asked a question that has been answered if you don't want to certify your work that makes you as bad as the people you describe in your previous post.

 

[smartspark]

Aye I didn't say I dont want to certify my work, I just found that there wasn't any call to issue a cert legally, I think there should, NO NEED TO BE RUDE ABOUT IT.