RU and RL

[Pete999]

Before RU went Professional most people thought rightly or wrongly that the Players came from a posh background, and only played by the knobs. just started watching RL England V NZ.
What is it with these RL blokes, most of them are sporting double barreled Names, any ideas why, snobbery, vanity etc.

 

[telectrix]

al,i can addis that rugby is played by men with odd shaped balls.

 

[Pete999]

al,i can addis that rugby is played by men with odd shaped balls.

And some with odd names Mate, that Bloke I think it's Robbie Paul has now change it to Robbie Hunter Paul, good RL player in his time, but why change his name, going to change mine I think, Pete Stallion Jones. That'll please Her in Doors.

 

[Midwest]

Thats 'cos they are earning some dosh, and got pre-marital nuptials with RL Wags, and makes life easier for everyone concerned when the relationship goes Pete Tong, i.e. when they have accrued too many injuries to carry on playing their sport, and stop earning loads of dosh, causing break of said relationship.

 

[ipf]

Before RU went Professional most people thought rightly or wrongly that the Players came from a posh background, and only played by the knobs. just started watching RL England V NZ.
What is it with these RL blokes, most of them are sporting double barreled Names, any ideas why, snobbery, vanity etc.

Three NZ players with such.....usually part Mauri, as with RP. Not a fan of his, BTW. It seems to be a bit 'in' these days.
No English players.
Three out of thirty-four is hardly 'most of them'.

When you talk about a posh background, it's rubbish.
I played both games. Once I started playing open age RL, pro or amateur, I was automatically banned from playing union, at any level, by the RFU.....sine die. The upper echelons of the game were the problem...hence the northern 'Rah Rah' terminology.
A bit of reading up about working man 'broken time payments in rugby' wouldn't go amiss, here Pete.
Also, have a read about RL in France.....how the Vichy government made it illegal to play RL during WWII and how long it went on for.
PS. Great effort for England by the lads. Well done

 

[electric al]

Nearly all the ru guys are doctors or barristers or oxbridge educated . Draw your own conclusions

 

[Pete999]

Nearly all the ru guys are doctors or barristers or oxbridge educated . Draw your own conclusions

Absolute Rubbish

 

[ipf]

Nearly all the ru guys are doctors or barristers or oxbridge educated . Draw your own conclusions

Shows some of the ignorance on both sides, I'm afraid.
The England RU captain's dad captained GB RL. Wiganers to be proud of, the pair of 'em.

 

[electric al]

Didn't say them all -there's been a few r l players played union .jason robinson for one when we won the world cup. There's been no end of doctors and lawyers too

 

[buzzlightyear]

Nearly all the ru guys are doctors or barristers or oxbridge educated . Draw your own conclusions

not really .have you tried it .boy that takes me back a few years ,still got the battles scars .where men are men
the band of brothers like the musketeers .where you finish the game
and the opposite side will drink with you .and eat the pie and smash .

 

[electric al]

Didn't say it wasn't a man's game either buzz .

 

[buzzlightyear]

Didn't say them all -there's been a few r l players played union .jason robinson for one when we won the world cup. There's been no end of doctors and lawyers too

if you are good playing for your country ,weather doctor ,butcher ,sailor. then you are good to play . if you are spotted for that talent.

 

[electric al]

Are you deliberately missing the point buzz - I'm not saying otherwise .

 

[electric al]

Shows some of the ignorance on both sides, I'm afraid.
The England RU captain's dad captained GB RL. Wiganers to be proud of, the pair of 'em.

Of course there are exceptions but that's just what they are. I think RU is viewed differently in Wales for example because it is their national sport and it has mass appeal

 

[ipf]

Didn't say them all -there's been a few r l players played union .jason robinson for one when we won the world cup. There's been no end of doctors and lawyers too

What the hell are you talking about?
There are thousands of ordinary, working class blokes playing union....and that's just in Lancashire, Yorkshire and Cumbria, where RL was born.
I am RL through and through and can't stand the stuck-up sods in union that sneer when RL is mentioned.....many of whom come from that public school background. That doesn't mean that I don't respect those 'ordinary' thousands who turn out every weekend to play a sport they enjoy...or those who turn out to support their teams.

Nearly all the ru guys are doctors or barristers or oxbridge educated . Draw your own conclusions

A very small percentage of the overall number playing the game. Get real.

Of course there are exceptions but that's just what they are. I think RU is viewed differently in Wales for example because it is their national sport and it has mass appeal

The upper echelons of the game in Wales are no different to those in England......stuck-up to$$ers…..but, for various reasons, the broken time payments didn't take a hold. Plenty of past, illegal payments to top 'amateur' players, in a bid to keep them in the game, though...….and Sine Die ban threats if even a trial in the evil game.
Good luck to the average blokes playing and watching the game they love.

 

[electric al]

It doesn't mean I don't repect them either ! Where did I say that ?? Apart from that you make some very salient points in my favour ! Yes good luck to them I certainly
Wish them well and if they get to represent their country so much better for Ru and the "average bloke " .Also the upper echelons in the Welsh Ru are no different ( stuck up ----ers) and therein lays the problem which is exactly my point .

 

[ipf]

I know we probably have similar feelings regarding the two codes but really, al, it's that ''nearly all'' comment that hit the wrong button. I know where you're coming from but we can't let 'em get under our skin, mate. Let's play it by the book and get our facts straight and not be throwing dumbs around to those who don't agree with you. Correctly don't agree, I might add.

 

[123]

Shows some of the ignorance on both sides, I'm afraid.
The England RU captain's dad captained GB RL. Wiganers to be proud of, the pair of 'em.

And Andy Farrell is a defence coach for which nation now?

 

[electric al]

I was referring to England internationals tbh not the grass roots .That's not to say I don't respect the players that love the game and are very committed .I don't like elitism is what it comes down to and ru governing body promotes it

 

[electric al]

Correct because you say so !

 

[ipf]

And Andy Farrell is a defence coach for which nation now?

Give us a clue

 

[ipf]

I was referring to England internationals tbh not the grass roots .That's not to say I don't respect the players that love the game and are very committed .I don't like elitism is what it comes down to and ru governing body promotes it

Why not say that in the first place, then?
You've only seized on that since I mentioned it.

 

[electric al]

I did - I was answering a post from Pete whereas he was talking about the England New Zealand game and he remarked on how lots of the England players had double barrel names .
He ventured that it could be a snobby thing . Then when I put my view forward he turned 360 degrees .

 

[electric al]

Ipf you didn't read the post properly and made a load of assumptions and tried your best to attribute to me things I hadn't said ! Trusted advisor ? Whatever -your neither

 

[ipf]

I did - I was answering a post from Pete whereas he was talking about the England New Zealand game and he remarked on how lots of the England players had double barrel names .
He ventured that it could be a snobby thing . Then when I put my view forward he turned 360 degrees .

What do you mean? That's facing the same way.
Although his only message to you mentioned 'absolute rubbish'.
Thanks for the pleasant comment in the following post, by the way.
Such a charming demeanour.

 

[electric al]

Edit 180 . Correct but I was responding to his earlier comment. Keep up ! Hope your on the same page soon . Well I could say the same minus the charm .

 

[ipf]

Edit 180 . Correct but I was responding to his earlier comment. Keep up ! Hope your on the same page soon . Well I could say the same minus the charm .

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