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Is the Amazon.de though going to suit my splitting needs? My naive self was envisioning more of a “spliter” configuration.

With the Amazon.de link here, would I be able to place L from the ceiling in one end and appropriately power three separate L for three bulbs on the other?

(I was under the impression that these connections were one to one where each of the four were separated. One for L, N, G…)

Yes you would use one connector for each conductor being spilt and place them in a suitable enclosure - dependent, of course, on Austrian wiring regulations. If splitting in three directions, then each incoming conductor would go in its own 4 way connector.

While ready made solutions exist, we don't know what sort of cable is being used and I'd be inclined to avoid no-name splitters sold on Amazon or eBay.
 
Is the Amazon.de though going to suit my splitting needs? My naive self was envisioning more of a “spliter” configuration.
You are making it more complicated than it is.
Each Wago just connects all the incoming/outgoing wires together.
Unless you are insanely OCD, you don't need incoming on one side and outgoing on the other. The electrons won't mind - you just need to connect all the lives, or earths, or neutrals, each with a separate Wago thus:
(example for the neutrals, you need to do the same for lives and earths!)
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You are making it more complicated than it is.
Each Wago just connects all the incoming/outgoing wires together.
Unless you are insanely OCD, you don't need incoming on one side and outgoing on the other. The electrons won't mind - you just need to connect all the lives, or earths, or neutrals, each with a separate Wago thus:
(example for the neutrals, you need to do the same for lives and earths!)
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That one sentence helped me tremendously... "you don't need incoming on one side and outgoing on the other. The electrons won't mind"

And yeah, not OCD, but I am good at asking 5 questions to get 2 different confirmations on a topic I've never been proper mentored in - especially online.

So with all of that, if I were to grab two of these Wago connectors and just slam all of L in one and all of G in another, I would have me a solid set up then? As drawn in my 'professional' schematic below?
 

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No..

The neutral is used for the return path. The ground is a safety feature which should be connected to the metallic body of the fitting.
Duh… This is why I ask many questions.

(In fairness, I slipped up there because the electrician that ran the wiring in my apartment didn’t exactly stick to the same color throughout)

But yes, you’re* absolutely right.

So, I’m swapping N for G in my schematic above, then I’m good to go?
(Ground cable is essentially “not used” for all light fixtures in the house)
 
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(Ground cable is essentially “not used” for all light fixtures in the house)
That is not the case in the UK. Regulations require the ground to be fed to each ceiling box where there will be a light. Then (in general terms), if a householder puts a metal light fitting up, they can connect the earth terminal on the fitting to the ground wire.
If any of your lights have a ground terminal then it should be used.
So if there are ground wires in your cables/conduit they should be connected together in a Wago just as the live and neutral will be.
I don't know what your regulations are on earthing, but it is a safety feature that you shouldn't ignore if it's supposed to be there!

And PS swapping N for G in your schematic is correct 👍
 
Makes sense.
In my truck, everything is always grounded.

Here, the ground cable is accessible, but hasn’t been used in any light fixtures in the apartment to date. As I’m the example of this unit here:2D8F1DAC-18C8-4812-8A02-1117E20B73E1.jpeg
 
Alright - Lamps arrived. They have grounds.
Can I just connect their grounds to the ground in the ceiling *assuming that's grounded on the other end?
 

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