Spark gone missing after EICR and no report

[Octopus]

MIs are guidance only, and don't have to be followed, especially when they are wrong.

So you will add a fixed appliance, on a dual RCD board with no DP isolation ..... So when the RCD starts tripping how are you going to isolate the fixed device so you can rule out in or out as the cause of the tripping?

You can't so I have too disagree with you

 

[Michaelwgroves]

Sorry to be blunt but EICR's require a considerable level of experience and knowledge, you do not seem to me to have the required knowledge to be advising the client on such matters. Seems to be a case of the blind leading the blind.

It's a simple question, I can't find a reg.
If you are so clever why not just say it's reg nnn.n.n or no such reg ?

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." Plato

 

[GeorgeCooke]

So you think MI are wrong stating there should be a local douple pole isolator?

If it is implied that it is a reg then yes they are wrong. If it is said they advise it though not required by the regs that is another matter.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Think this thread is deteriorating to less than useful.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

So you will add a fixed appliance, on a dual RCD board with no DP isolation ..... So when the RCD starts tripping how are you going to isolate the fixed device so you can rule out in or out as the cause of the tripping?

You can't so I have too disagree with you

That argument applies to every light fitting throughout the house. Are you implying all light switches should be double pole?

 

[Michaelwgroves]

Back to the matter in hand, I can't find anything in BYB or OSG.
But Electrician's Guide to The Building Regulations advises;
4.5 "Instantaneous water heaters (including showers) of rating exceeding 3 kW should be supplied by a separate circuit. Local isolation of water and electricity should be provided to facilitate maintenance"
So should I conclude no reg; Therefore, common sense should prevail?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Not sure how many FCUs are not double pole?
The ones I use are, so it’s not a problem for me.

 

[GeorgeCooke]

So should I conclude no reg; Therefore, common sense should prevail?

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Back to the matter in hand, I can't find anything in BYB or OSG.
But Electrician's Guide to The Building Regulations advises;
4.5 "Instantaneous water heaters (including showers) of rating exceeding 3 kW should be supplied by a separate circuit. Local isolation of water and electricity should be provided to facilitate maintenance"
So should I conclude no reg; Therefore, common sense should prevail?

You are not going to find a Regulation requiring local DP or even SP isolation in domestic installations.
There may be some in regards to rotating machinery in workshops and factories, but I can’t be asked to look.

 

[Octopus]

That argument applies to every light fitting throughout the house. Are you implying all light switches should be double pole?

I said fixed loads, not lights ....

 

[Taylortwocities]

Back to the matter in hand, I can't find anything in BYB or OSG.
But Electrician's Guide to The Building Regulations advises;
4.5 "Instantaneous water heaters (including showers) of rating exceeding 3 kW should be supplied by a separate circuit. Local isolation of water and electricity should be provided to facilitate maintenance"
So should I conclude no reg; Therefore, common sense should prevail?

That's why it is called a GUIDE. Its to help the hard of thinking from actually having to know what is actually in BS7671.

 

[Octopus]

That's why it is called a GUIDE. Its to help the hard of thinking from actually having to know what is actually in BS7671.

Thing is that publication does have it's uses and some things are better clarified that the BYB

The BBB hasn't made anything clearer

 

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