What? No Thatcher thread?

[MDJ]

This is sick

Why? ??? Because you like her ?

 

[MDJ]

This is sick

Can't her family pay for it all like ours would ?

 

[trev]

This is sick

I think it's sick that the tax payer is expected to pay for the funeral of a multi millionaire, regardless of whether she was liked or loathed. William Hague's comments regarding the EU rebate she negotiated for us was nauseating today. we're continually told that the country is bankrupt yet we can suddenly pull £10 million out of the bag for this, How many nurses/teachers/police officers/ road sweepers would that £10 million pay for?

 

[ruston]

Maybe Margret Thatcher made some bad decisions, maybe she made some good one's too, I guess it all depends on whether these decisions directly affected you or not.

The point is somebody has died, and there are 18, 19, 20 year olds almost rioting in the streets, what the hell has it got to to with them? Any excuse for some thuggery, what sort of society have we really bred in this country?

What about respect for her children and family? If you all believe she did so much wrong is that fault of her children?

When I was young and lived in a village the churchyard was just down the road from my house, and whenever there was a funeral we, and everybody else used to draw the curtains at the front of the house as a sign of respect, whether we liked the person or not.

To take to the streets with this type of disrespect of everything, including the law is so just plain shameful.
I always believed I was proud to be English, but to have any association with these type of people just disgusts me.

I agree with you , although I have been affected by her policies to the extent of been made redundant and the aftermath of social decay in our once law abiding community . I was brought upon similar principles as you . Integrity and Christianity should tell you that it is wrong to celebrate someones death. We are no better than those we despise if we cannot hold our decorum.

 

[MDJ]

We are no better than those we despise if we cannot hold our decorum.

Very good point actually, your right, best behaviour from now on

 

[Jay Sparks]

Who are you all talking about??????

 

[trev]

it is wrong to celebrate someones death.

I take no pleasure from her death or from the suffering and indignity of her final years. I will not mourn her passing though.

 

[ruston]

Very good point actually, your right, best behaviour from now on

You are right too , but what can we do about it , our vote is useless.

 

[UNG]

This thread has drifted from a vindictive uncaring Thatcher and her legacy, to a political debate on the merits or otherwise of socialism compared to full blown capitalism (in all its sickening face to this day)

I will make comment again in reference to that woman only and leave the socialist/ capitalist debate to the side for now

Some of the comments made about the times of the miners strike and the antics of Arthur Scargil also show a complete and utter mis understanding of the reality of what that woman did to particular parts of the country

I live where there are many villages,each village had a coal mine,there are no big towns or cities where alternative employment would be found,the lifeblood of the community was the colliery,you either worked there or in some sort of service capacity,either to the colliery or the community

In heavily populated areas,the burden of the loss of major industry could be managed by transferring to other work where possible.it would be difficult,but there may be other options available
In the mining areas,there was no alternative,there was and is no means of seeking employment,there were no manufacturing or other works available at all

She closed the pits and with such speed and ferocity that the communities were shattered
The miners themselves had already been sledge hammered by the length of the strike,they had relied on food parcels from myself and others in the community to feed themselves and their families,the closures were another hammer blow on top and the final nail in the coffin of whole communities

The woman carried out these closures with no interest in preparing our communities for the effect of the loss of its only employment

The aftermath of her actions resulted in not only nearly the whole of the working population being without employment or prospect of employment,it caused the young generation to have nothing,absolutely nothing, to aspire to
There was almost 100% unemployment of the youngsters for a whole generation,they in turn grew older and their kids were reared in households where employment was an alien concept,a rare experience for almost all that grew up there

Society where I live changed and reflected the damage this woman carried out
The communities were and are wastelands,the social structure was broken and remains so to this day

She not only took away our work or prospect of work,she took away hope,she destroyed a way of life,she is the most detested politician ever to be mentioned amongst my people,she will never be forgotten

Remember, these areas mined coal often with great loss of life,decimated health and almost slave labour wages until post war when the value of the coal that was mined was finally reflected in the wages of the miner

They worked for the rich man,lived in the rich mans slums,were obliged to buy their food and clothing in the rich mans shop and the descendants of the rich man,the woman herself, and her friends and fellow despots,wreaked carnage on my people as reward for their ill gotten gains,she did it for little more than revenge on those miners for daring to try and maintain their post war living standard

Coal from these areas that had lined the pockets of wealthy people from far off cities for over 200 years,we saw nothing of that wealth,we had the worst living standards,hardly any infrastructure,our roads, rail,housing was and is 3rd world compared to most areas
Our coal financed much of the life of Great Britain plc and was rewarded with Thatcher

Making the areas prepared to withstand the closures would have been no more than common sense, and perhaps empathy with those who were to be hammered for the wealth they had guiven her kind

Instead she chose not give a damn.the sacrifice of generation upon generation was thrown aside, in the same disgusting attitude as displayed in all the years past by these leeches who preyed on my people and our natural resources,our natural resources which made them the wealth in the first place

How this creature can be respected and even revered by ordinary people is mind boggling

What a one sided blinkered view it took two people to close the pits and one of them was on your side he picked the wrong fight and was still ripping off the NUM until a recent court case went against him when his time comes I hope he can lie straight in his coffin with what he has done for the miners with his undemocratic strikes and victimisation of those who stepped out of line. All I can say is Scargill must be teflon coated as no excrement seems to stick to him

 

[specs]

Why? ??? Because you like her ?

No , because its sick