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By the way, there are members saying that we should have been given that facts before we voted.

THERE ARE NO FACTS! THERE ARE NO MORE FACTS NOW THAT THERE WERE BEFORE! THERE ARE NO MORE FACTS ABOUT LEAVE THAN THERE ARE ABOUT REMAIN.

In voting out, we are voting in to an educated unknown. But equally, if we had voted remain, (which we didn’t) we would have voted for Just as much of an unknown. We certainly would not have voted for the status quo as the EU is a ‘shifting sands’ bureaucracy.

The very reason Cameron was
forced into the referendum was because the UK people, as a whole, were fed up with the ever changing EU push toward more integration, more EU!

Discuss.
 
Whilst there are no more facts now than there were at the time of the vote, some facts have now come to light which were not really made public at the time of the vote.
For instance the Good Friday agreement not to have a border between North and Southern Ireland.
The way it’s shaping up, there’ll be a referendum soon in NI to decide if they want to remain part of the UK or join Southern Ireland.
 
One thing about Brexit which no one can argue is the fact it has heavily divided the country, one of the worse things to happen to this country, IMO it is just a matter of time before the union breaks up over it, we are all at each others throats on here, it is the single most important thing to happen to the UK since the revolution IMO, it will change us forever regardless of how we all voted.
 
What brexit has done is give us a taste of living in the USA, politics is a family ritual over there and divides families, splits communities and causes lots of secondary issues, it has been happening for decades, here in the UK it has taken a referendum to achieve anything like we see in the US but I believe once we are out, the dust has settled and politics returns back to normal then we will all settle back to ignoring the politics of a person and treating them as equals regardless.
The speed at which this occurs will all be based on how we fair post Brexit, there is going to be a mad rush of media trying to show every job lost and every tiny negative effect out there to maintain their position because they have spent the last few yrs playing fearmongering, it will be very interesting when the UK (as I suspect) makes a success of not been tied to the EU under the rule of Brussels to how all these defiant remainer media, and organisations react when most of the scare stories they have been playing the population with do not come to fruition... like 90% of them haven't yet when claimed the vote alone would cause this and that.
 
I'll give you a fact, not my opinion.
Things would of stayed as they were.
There you go.

Now can you give me any facts as to how we will be better off when we leave please?

Oh and by the way, I found your cartoon quite offensive. :):):)
That is opinion though - the fact is that the EU has changed, from a trade bloc to a meddling unelected federal body which has changed the face of Britain - the EU has brought about a situation where you mainly hear foreign voices in the street, where employers say they can no longer run their businesses without migrant workers, competition for property has pushed prices up beyond the means of many people who were born here, meaning people are faced with the prospect of living in digs for the rest of their lives if they haven't spent their working life saving up for their house back home.

Nobody knows for certain if we'll be better off when we leave, but the general consensus is that things can't keep going the way they are.
 
That is opinion though - the fact is that the EU has changed, from a trade bloc to a meddling unelected federal body which has changed the face of Britain - the EU has brought about a situation where you mainly hear foreign voices in the street, where employers say they can no longer run their businesses without migrant workers, competition for property has pushed prices up beyond the means of many people who were born here, meaning people are faced with the prospect of living in digs for the rest of their lives if they haven't spent their working life saving up for their house back home.

Nobody knows for certain if we'll be better off when we leave, but the general consensus is that things can't keep going the way they are.
Most of that has sod all to do with the EU.
 
Spoke to a client today who runs a business in UK, he cannot wait to leave, he has seen for his own eyes how EU multinationals have lobbied EU, skewed the market place and hurt many businesses in the process. We need a total clean break so our businesses can get on with global business on a level playing field. BTW he laughed at all the fuss about borders and customs, he imports from all over the world and states that the EU is actually more frustrating to deal with than US, china and asia, it isn't anything like what is being portrayed in the media. Over the cliff we go..... lol
 
The EU's master plan is to have each Member State so reliant in it that they could never leave.

Portugal is a good example. One if the first things the EU done when Portugal joined was to give their farmers and manufacturing EU grants to close down. Portugal is now almost completely reliant on imports from............. yes, Germany.

We have to a certain extent almost fallen down the same hole. However we may just get out in time. The fact that we are talking about imploding as a direct result of leaving the EU scares me more than anything. The moment a country cannot survive without the input of foreign states then that country fails to be.

We will leave the EU as it is now impossible to be stopped. Anyone saying anything different does not understand how Parliament works.
 

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