Whats wrong with this pic

[Tomking]

Hi I just start job need help with description whats wrong wit neural

 

[Strima]

No neutral from bottom of second DP switch to neutral bar. I'm guessing an RCD has been replaced at some point due to nuisance tripping?

 

[Petej999]

TO MANY UNNECISARRY LONG WIRES

 

[telectrix]

nothing wrong that a complete strip down and rewire won't fix. that's a rat's abortion.

 

[Dustydazzler]

old split load board with trippy rcd , so some clever sparks swapped out the rcd for a main switch , seen this loads of times

 

[Dustydazzler]

my guess is that they re-used the old splt board when rewiring and it tripped out so they took the easy option

 

[Tomking]

No neutral from bottom of second DP switch to neutral bar. I'm guessing an RCD has been replaced at some point due to nuisance tripping?

No neutral from bottom of second DP switch to neutral bar. I'm guessing an RCD has been replaced at some point due to nuisance tripping?

Is that c1 or c2

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

Hi I just start job need help with description whats wrong wit neuralView attachment 90884

What have you been asked to do with the board?

 

[Tomking]

Hi I just start job need help with description whats wrong wit neuralView attachment 90884

old split load board with trippy rcd , so some clever sparks swapped out the rcd for a main switch , seen this loads of times

Rcd trips cos they put rcd on main neutral bar on split board 3netral bars main rcd1 rcd2

 

[Tomking]

What have you been asked to do with the board?

Eicr just eicr

 

[Deleted account]

Rcd trips cos they put rcd on main neutral bar on split board 3netral bars main rcd1 rcd2

Sorry, but could you start again.

what have You been asked to do in this job?
and
what is your question?

edit: sorry sent post before I saw above post.

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

Eicr just eicr

Extremely worrying.

 

[Deleted account]

Having a main switch instead of the RCD is not immediately dangerous or potentially dangerous.

there are issue that can be coded due to inadequate additional protection, but I can’t see the main switch being a Code in itself. What do you think?

 

[Tomking]

Having a main switch instead of the RCD is not immediately dangerous or potentially dangerous.

there are issue that can be coded due to inadequate additional protection, but I can’t see the main switch being a Code in itself. What do you think?

Dunno never seen switch with no neutral so Dunno how to code this also rcd sometimes tripping on zs low 3lead test is neutral arrangements can cause that or earthing problem I put as earthing problem

 

[Deleted account]

Dunno never seen switch with no neutral so Dunno how to code this also rcd sometimes tripping on zs low 3lead test is neutral arrangements can cause that or earthing problem I put as earthing problem

Just ask yourself is this issue immediately dangerous? Is someone in imminent danger?
or is there a potential danger? Could some one come to harm if some one does something?

ask yourself if the double pole isolator without a neutral is dangerous and how is it dangerous? Justify your coding.

I don’t like it, I think it’s wrong. just because I don’t like it and think it’s wrong doesn’t mean I can code it. I can’t just say it’s wrong. you have to give a valid reason why it is electrically wrong.

so what do you think? Does it need coding? And why?

 

[Electrics]

Needs completely redoing, all of it.

 

[DPG]

Dunno never seen switch with no neutral so Dunno how to code this also rcd sometimes tripping on zs low 3lead test is neutral arrangements can cause that or earthing problem I put as earthing problem

What was the earthing problem?

 

[Tomking]

What was the earthing problem?

Rcd trip on zs 3low

 

[westward10]

You are carrying out an EICR?
Your profile has you down as a trainee.

 

[Tomking]

Just ask yourself is this issue immediately dangerous? Is someone in imminent danger?
or is there a potential danger? Could some one come to harm if some one does something?

ask yourself if the double pole isolator without a neutral is dangerous and how is it dangerous? Justify your coding.

I don’t like it, I think it’s wrong. just because I don’t like it and think it’s wrong doesn’t mean I can code it. I can’t just say it’s wrong. you have to give a valid reason why it is electrically wrong.

so what do you think? Does it need coding? And why?

Q

 

[GBDamo]

Hi I just start job need help with description whats wrong wit neuralView attachment 90884

The composition is appalling.

It is lit from the wrong angle, casting unnecessary shadows.

No effort has been made to introduce texture or add any depth, shape or lines.

Have you even heard of the rule of thirds?

Your question should have been "Whats right with this pic?" It would have been a substantially shorter list.

 

[Tomking]

Ok so let me ask
Do I need neutral in 220v single phase ???
I say YES to close circuit so how that db work??? And is that dangerous
What's wrong with this db
And how do I rectify if this is dangerous
Why rcd TRIP??? On low3 zs some guaid where I can look and what to read so I can understand

 

[westward10]

Ok so let me ask
Do I need neutral in 220v single phase ???
I say YES to close circuit so how that db work??? And is that dangerous
What's wrong with this db
And how do I rectify if this is dangerous
Why rcd TRIP??? On low3 zs some guaid where I can look and what to read so I can understand

Are you a trainee doing an EICR.

 

[Tomking]

Are you a trainee doing an EICR.

Why is this matter

 

[Tomking]

Why is this matter and can you help me or question me

 

[Deleted account]

If you are a fully qualified sparkie you should not do EICRs unless you are skilled in doing so. Also relevant experience in the type of installation you are testing. This is for fully qualified sparkies.

when I qualified I did not do an EICR until such time as I had gained enough experience and I did a course. This was a couple of years later.

you are a trainee, maybe best wait to do EICRs Until you are qualified and have a couple of years or enough relevant experience in the type of installation you are testing.

It is unfair for the customer you are doing it for as they are paying for someone who they think knows what they are doing. Remember the customer will be acting on the advice and coding you are going to give.

 

[MJPD29]

Why is this matter

Hes trying to help you there is no need to be rude. Clearly your electrical knowledge is extremely poor and you don't know what your doing from what I see so westwarda question is justified. You have turned to the people here for help, so why not accept it.

 

[DPG]

Scary.

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

His messages are starting to remind me of the "Hello sir" user from the other day

 

[IAmSparkytus!]

And maybe a link to the "Poor EICR report results in prosecution" thread might be handy for him if anyone knows how to do that?

 

[MJPD29]

His messages are starting to remind me of the "Hello sir" user from the other day

Hi sir What is electricity

 

[westward10]

Why is this matter

Your opening post is all you need to know.

 

[Tomking]

Ok so I ask question sorry for my English but if you boys are so great electrician not one off u can given answer for a question thx for nothing anyway ? I think I will be gone now cos I don't wanna argue about my privet life what and who and why my neighbour sleep with me hahaha
But seriously thx for everything
trying hahaha answer question
Thanks

 

[Tomking]

O!! and what is electricity
U can find on Wikipedia
Under electricty :d

 

[M-Ty]

Neutral woz snot wit ear. Tis in untied stats dough. Woz L2 B4 yeller, Noo Blake. Fang yew veggy match and enjoy UR privet & UR naybaah!

 

[littlespark]

The original question was answered in the first few replies…. Which pointed out many more faults than just a neutral.

Doing an EICR does not require you to know how to fix it, only how to code what is wrong, and as mentioned, you need a good few years experience before doing the report competently.

 

[robd]

Bad attitude if you want people to help or is it just a windup in the first place? Mains board is such a mess needs sorting before anything else. Wholly annoying post to be honest.

 

[telectrix]

The composition is appalling.

It is lit from the wrong angle, casting unnecessary shadows.

No effort has been made to introduce texture or add any depth, shape or lines.

Have you even heard of the rule of thirds?

Your question should have been "Whats right with this pic?" It would have been a substantially shorter list.

and the whole frame is on the slant, eggagerating the already present MK lean.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

For the dis board it's all about correct type & rating of switchgear....which this is...

May be some 2s for the finals though...

 

[telectrix]

the's also a few quids worth of scrap copper in there if it were to be done properly.