which crimps for domestic

[chrisreid186]

hi guys can anyone recommend a decent set of crimps for domestic wiring, mainly twin and earth cable,
tried roleson but really don't trust them because the cable is easily pulled apart, or maybe i pull a bit to hard?

 

[telectrix]

do you mean CRIMPS or CRIMP TOOLS

 

[Adam W]

I use a pair of SWA ones from Edmundsons.
Think they were about £13. They're alright.

 

[telectrix]

same here. the cheap ones that are a multi tool as in b&q etc.( not ratchet crimpers ) are pants. no wonder the joins come apart.

 

[chrisreid186]

sorry crimping TOOL

 

[chrisreid186]

or maybe its cheap crimps from cef which are the problem?

 

[johnboy6083]

Cembre. Will cost you but they're the dogs, and they can be used anywhere.

 

[chrisreid186]

these ones? ... for insulated connectors - Weidmuller - Edmundson Electrical

 

[rocker]

If you've been using the thin metal rubbishy ones with the wire strippers on the inside of the handles like Tel described, then that's your problem. They may work once or twice if you whack them with a lump hammer. Any ratchet crimper will do the job well, even cheap ones (I've used SWA and Forge Steel, all good, currently got an 8 quid ebay jobby and it works fine).

For domestic work, you want the type that do red, blue and yellow insulated crimps.

 

[telectrix]

you want the ones with the 3 colur coded sizes. red ( 1.5mm) blue (2.5) yellow ( 4-6mm) any whoesaler

 

[chrisreid186]

cheers for the advice appreciated

 

[Adam W]

I think they're these ones but i didn't pay that much for them.

 

[Amp David]

Some top quality tools here too Crimping Tools - Pre-insulated Terminals - Crimp Tooling - Cablecraft - Cable Identification and Cabling Accessories

 

[MarkieSparkie]

One thing to be aware of, the crimp tool and crimps should ideally be matched for guaranteed results. I can thoroughly recommend SWA kit, quality products at reasonable prices.
For example if you buy a SWA crimp tool always use SWA crimps with it, use of other manufacturers crimps may give variable results, even though they are supposed to be manufactured to the same standard. Most quality crimp tools are adjustable but its fiddly and time consuming. It took my apprentice nearly 30 minutes the other day to set his crimp tool (from a far east manufacturer) so it did not over crimp the insulation on the crimps he had bought.
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[Amp David]

Whos crimps would I use with a set of Knipex crimps?

 

[ronaldodm123]

They may work once or twice if you whack them with a lump hammer. Any ratchet crimper will do the job well, even cheap ones

 

[LukeD]

Its been mentioned , i think the main issue is crimps rather than the tool
we want to buy as cheap as possible and think they are all going to be the same quality. I stopped using cheap screws, plugs and electi tape a few years ago and will never look back. Have started to use helacons etc and this new technology is great.
We need to find out who makes GOOD crimps more than who make good crimpers !

 

[Adam W]

I use the crimps which they sell in the wholesalers.
I think they're SWA, so my SWA crimpers work fine, just fine.

 

[Amp David]

I got the crimps with the Newlwc crimp tool and the plastic insulation is nice and tough unlike some off the cheaper types

 

[LukeD]

also i notice some people do not know how to crimp correctly . A friend of mine never gets good tight connections