Additional consumer unit in domestic property breaker sizes?

[P-Courty]

I have a few questions about a couple of breaker sizes needed due to current draw and diversity.

In place already is as usual;
A main service fuse (100A)
25mm P&N tails to meter
25mm P&N tails from meter to CU
12 way CU split load

What has been done is a garage conversion to kitchen.
I was told they wanted a new CU for the kitchen area due to the 12 way being full and old (and strapped for cash).

I've been given a 6 way CU with 80A RCD, P&N 25mm tails & 16mm earth tail (customer supplied).

My plan was (correct me if I am wrong anywhere please) going to need additional items to complete.

1. Outgoing 25mm tails from meter to a 2 way CU with an MK 100A double pole main breaker (to protect service fuse).
2. From there 25mm tails to a 6 terminal henley block.
3. From the henley block 25mm tails to new 6 way CU and 25mm tails to existing CU.
4. 16mm earth to each CU from MEB.

Now this is were I could do with a little help on breakers.

The new board only has the RCD, do I need a main breaker in there? As in an 80A main and 63A 30mA RCD?
The circuits put it are a 32A kitchen ring final and a cooker circuit (for some reason in a 2.5mm t&e) I did question that and they said the kitchen fitters said the 2 single ovens are capable of being on 16A radials and the hob (not heard that before) so I may need to upgrade the cable size for that when I find out the kw of them (think it will be a must). This is what is confusing me on the RCD and main breaker sizes I should choose as i'm not completely sure what the draw is going to be.

Any help on all of this would be very much appreciated as they want this completed by the end of this week.

Thank you in advance for any help and advice given.

 

[uksparks]

I was over qualified for certain jobs so can't even work on a till at my local Asda because of that so sorry for asking for help!

I went for a job in Sanisburys on the tills once, just to bring in a bit of extra cash, going back a few years now, I was trying to save money for various things, was single and thought it would help, anyway, I turned up in a nice suit for a job interview, walked through sainsburys, went out the back where the staff are, and they were basically laughing at me. I showed the bloke my CV and what I did for a job and he said sorry but you don't need the money nor the job, you are far too qualified to be sitting at a till and we would rather give it to someone who needs it.

 

[Octopus]

I went for a job in Sanisburys on the tills once, just to bring in a bit of extra cash, going back a few years now, I was trying to save money for various things, was single and thought it would help, anyway, I turned up in a nice suit for a job interview, walked through sainsburys, went out the back where the staff are, and they were basically laughing at me. I showed the bloke my CV and what I did for a job and he said sorry but you don't need the money nor the job, you are far too qualified to be sitting at a till and we would rather give it to someone who needs it.

A few years back I went to Sainsburys dressed in my decorating outfit - and got accosted going into Sainsburys and asked if I wanted a job!

 

[uksparks]

I got all my certificates back in January 2012 I've been labouring since then (2 years 11 months) basically 3 years like I said.

Sorry I can't resist saying this, you got them in January 2012, so thats 31 days, a shade over 4 weeks. Oh come on you were wanting me to say that.

I guess I'm just to rusty for this now.

You cannot possibly be 'rusty', you have only been doing this since January 2012, there's no room for being rusty. Without trying to sound rude, you are using incorrect terminology and seem like you haven't got a clue.

Do you mind me asking, which scheme / body are you registered with? NICEIC? NAPIT?

 

[uksparks]

Anyway, ive got a job to do today, oh and don't eat bombay mix when you have a filling thats had a root canal too, I had some last night and broke the filling off, needs a sodding crown now!!

 

[telectrix]

harsh comments maybe, but this job is beyond your experience. i strongly suggest you enlist the aid of someone with more experience to quote with you and work with you , or else you;ll find yourself catching a cold, or worse.

 

[Pete999]

Mate, if you're not an electrician then you need to get one.
If you are then you need to start acting like one.

Got to agree with Trev on this, also, if you are a trainee, I'm asking because your profile says nowt, should you be doing this work?

 

[ImpededLoop]

It sounds like you have the qualifications, but not enough experience. The best thing to do would be to try and find a job working for somebody else so you get chance to get back up to speed.

 

[P-Courty]

I went to college in 2007 finished in 2011 and took my 17th in january 2012 but i'm not going to do this as you lot have said it would be out of my league and i have phoned my uncle this morning and told him to get someone else in to do it, he was just trying to help me get a bit of money over christmas and obviously him save money but as the saying goes better to be safe than sorry so i am going to look for a different career path so as not to cause any issues for anyone but thank you all for the truthful comments.

 

[ImpededLoop]

I went to college in 2007 finished in 2011 and took my 17th in january 2012 but i'm not going to do this as you lot have said it would be out of my league and i have phoned my uncle this morning and told him to get someone else in to do it, he was just trying to help me get a bit of money over christmas and obviously him save money but as the saying goes better to be safe than sorry so i am going to look for a different career path so as not to cause any issues for anyone but rhank you all for the truthful comments.

As I said in my previous post, find some work with another electrician. If you have the qualifications, it seems a shame to waste all that hard work.

 

[BES]

I went to college in 2007 finished in 2011 and took my 17th in january 2012 but i'm not going to do this as you lot have said it would be out of my league and i have phoned my uncle this morning and told him to get someone else in to do it, he was just trying to help me get a bit of money over christmas and obviously him save money but as the saying goes better to be safe than sorry so i am going to look for a different career path so as not to cause any issues for anyone but thank you all for the truthful comments.

Poor bloke. Be on window ledge by lunchtime

 

[Leesparkykent]

With those qualifications, I'm sure you would be given the opportunity as a electricians mate over many that would apply for the same job. This would be the best thing to do and gain some experience. All the best.

 

[telectrix]

as above. don't give up on the career. get someone to work with you on the job you' posted and gain experience working as a mate. going rate is about £11/hour, so better than stacking shelves in tesco's.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Just to add, it's not that people on here don't want to help you it's just people don't want to go and give you the information that gives you the confidence to go ahead and do a job that by the sounds of it you do not have the ability to do (and May or may not in turn cause yourself or somebody else an injury). I hope things work out for yourself and good luck getting a mates job and gaining the experience to match your qualifications.

 

[P-Courty]

Around were I live I can't even get a job for companys who ask for apprentices it's been 3 years and i've got nothing out of it an my experience is obviously lacking a lot so it must just not be my place.

 

[P-Courty]

Just to add, it's not that people on here don't want to help you it's just people don't want to go and give you the information that gives you the confidence to go ahead and do a job that by the sounds of it you do not have the ability to do (and May or may not in turn cause yourself or somebody else an injury). I hope things work out for yourself and good luck getting a mates job and gaining the experience to match your qualifications.

I understand what you are saying and thank you

 

[davesparks]

How am I conning you, I am asking for help off you if I was regular Joe Blogs I would just go ahead and do it. I got all my certificates back in January 2012 I've been labouring since then (2 years 11 months) basically 3 years like I said. In that time I had a lot of family issues I went through lost everything and hit depression and am now in financial difficulty so sorry if this the words breaker and switch got mixed up in my head during all of this.

I've come here to ask you guys for help because surely you've needed that in the past. And if this is childs play then why are you not helping me and just tearing me back down to were I used to be I thought coming to you guys could help me out.

It looks like you have never been living on every penny you get and own your own houses and have vans well to me a penny is a lot and as for a car well thats a luxury to me and my bloody pedal bike. I thought you guys could help me out but guess I was wrong. I have my A's back from school and distictions from college I worked my arse off to be told I was over qualified for certain jobs so can't even work on a till at my local Asda because of that so sorry for asking for help!

The con comment was not directed at you, it was with regards the NIC and other scams requiring someone like you who trained under the 17th to do the 17th course in addition.


I've been there and done that!
This time last year I was down to only eating every other day, so yes I have been in the situation of living off of every penny I can get.
I am still stuck living with my parents as I cannot afford a place of my own.
And yes I have been diagnosed with depression.

If you have genuinely worked your arse off and got learned the trade then how come you need to ask such basic questions?

Electricity can and will kill people or burn down their houses if you make the most simple of mistakes.