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I've recently been offered an electrical apprenticeship. However I received my contract in the post today and I saw that my wage is going to be £2.65. I'm 19 years of age and have rent, car insurance etc to pay for so I was wondering am I expecting too much? Or as I'm thinking is this not enough?

PS... I know it is within the minimum wage for a first year apprentice I was just hoping for a little more considering my age.

THANKS!
 
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From an employers point of view a 1st year apprentice is a liability. I know some beleive they are gods gift to the trade but that is not the case. I always paid my apprentices more but were they worth it in the 1st year? Probably not. If I was to take an employed apprentice on again, which I wont, I think I`d pay the minimum now.

The alternative is to go to university and get paid nothing and come out with a degree, no experience, probably no job and be in debt of say £30k.

Your new employer could find a dozen lads to fill that vacancy, at whatever age you are the lack of any meaningful experience and the amount of time from experienced guys that you will need dont make you worth more than £2.65 and maybe not even that.

The fact that you have rent and bills to pay is of no relevance to your employer.

Take it, bite the bullet, see if you can get another part time job to supplement your income in year one is my advice. Whatever you do DONT ask for more money before you even start cos if you did that to me you wouldn`t even start.
 
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stuartcourt said:
you would save £2.65 if your apprentice ran to the van once an hour
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Indeed. You are absolutely correct IF you assume that the apprentice is there to make the tea, sweep up and run to the van. However if you assume that there will be instruction from more experienced guys, who obviously cant do that and do their own jobs, slow completion of set tasks, mistakes to rectify and , certainly in the 1st year, having to get everything checked then I think you will find I`m right.

Unless of course you are advocating using apprentices as cheap unskilled labour?
 
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I dont think your right at all what I am saying is the lads we have taught of course slow you down but make up more than enough time getting stuff from van, tidying up, chasing out, feeding cables etc etc and yes they do make the tea
 
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Samj167 said:
I've recently been offered an electrical apprenticeship. However I received my contract in the post today and I saw that my wage is going to be £2.65. I'm 19 years of age and have rent, car insurance etc to pay for so I was wondering am I expecting too much? Or as I'm thinking is this not enough?

PS... I know it is within the minimum wage for a first year apprentice I was just hoping for a little more considering my age.

THANKS!
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eh?...just shut up and get on with it....
 
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Samj167 said:
Ok so I rang the firm and explained my situation today. They were brilliant and have sorted the situation by offering me a little bit more. Now feeling incredibly relieved. Thanks all that helped!
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cheeky get....do a year for em first before you dare go in that office asking for more...
what do you think it is....
 
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Samj167 said:
I've recently been offered an electrical apprenticeship. However I received my contract in the post today and I saw that my wage is going to be £2.65. I'm 19 years of age and have rent, car insurance etc to pay for so I was wondering am I expecting too much? Or as I'm thinking is this not enough?

PS... I know it is within the minimum wage for a first year apprentice I was just hoping for a little more considering my age.

THANKS!
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Where abouts are you located?
 
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From and including 4th January, 2010, the hourly rates for Job Employed apprentices shall be:(i) National Standard Rates:
GradeTransport Provided Own Transport
Stage 1£4.35£5.09
Stage 2£6.41£7.16
Stage 3£9.28£10.05
Stage 4£9.82£10.59

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Bit out of date
 
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£2-65 an hour,my god,its no wonder the creation of skilled tradesmen in this country is almost non existent

I don't care whether its learning a trade or sweeping a bog,anyone paying those wages in this day and age deserve to have their testicles fester and have the rot spread to their moral compass

If any of you pay those rates,, or think that you could get away with those rates if you were to employ an apprentice,you should be ashamed of yourself

My own wage was 3 pounds and 1 shilling a week,but it was a young mans living wage,the rates being quoted are slave labour, 3rd world or Thatcher economics,rather than a dignified pay for an aspiring young person

Treat others with the dignity that you would hope that you deserve yourself,try not get suckered into these criminal attitudes
What a perverse attitude to life this country now embraces
 
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To say I’m shocked by what I’ve read would be an understatement. But you have to look at the long term goals.

As an indentured apprentice my first wage was the princely sum of £9-50 a week.
Had mum and dad not helped me (kept me) I don’t think I’d have stuck at it.

OK you probably don’t have mum and dad to help out. But as has been said there is help if you look for it. You’ll probably have to fight for it, but stay in the fight.

All the best to you.
 
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fair play to you mate you are learning what we all feel is the best trade by far, what makes me mad is how someone could pay someone else a pittance like you earn and think its ok I got 1.50 an hour (no overtime I admit) in 1989 and things were a lot cheaper then,
 
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stuartcourt said:
fair play to you mate you are learning what we all feel is the best trade by far, what makes me mad is how someone could pay someone else a pittance like you earn and think its ok I got 1.50 an hour (no overtime I admit) in 1989 and things were a lot cheaper then,
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I suppose the answer to that is, there has been thieves and slave masters throughout all of history, and to history it should have been confined

However some people still practice the art,maybe they will get the message in this thread and some young lads trying to get on in a commendable way could find a living wage in their pay packet, after the shame sinks in that is
 
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