UK Bad brakers of is there something else

[Stephenmunt]

Hi I'm trying to find if I have a fault in these to brakers of in the lines. The 32A braker leads as far as I know only to a junction box that use to be used for the old boiler. It's been off for a long long time but want it back on again but it keeps tripping out for some reason. I've turned all the main braker and tryed turning on the 32A braker but it still trips out.

My question is, is this a fault braker or does it still detect a fault down the line some place else.

I've attached a photo. Ps the C/U is going to be upgraded as its old.

Also I can't upload a photo on this app so hoping some one can still dish out some advice

 

[pc1966]

You might need to save your image as a smaller size/more compression to be accepted.

If you can't reset it without any power then it is not an electrical fault elsewhere so it most likely is a faulty breaker. That is not uncommon with ones that have not been cycled occasionally during periodic testing.

Even if you can get it to hold with a bit of exercise, I personally would recommend you have it replaced.

 

[pc1966]

If you can upload a photo, folks on here will likely know if it is easy to get or not, etc.

 

[Stephenmunt]

This website won't let me send a photo as it's to large. Not shore why. It's a normal photo size.

 

[James]

The attachment file size limit is a bit frustrating at times, i assume it is a cost issue as larger files need more expensive hosting packages.
the only person that can change it would be @Dan
maybe one to review as mobile cameras are creating increasingly larger picture files as technology improves, could pictures be excluded from the limit then automatically compressed, before storage and display on the site?

 

[Stephenmunt]

Managed to resize it. Also found that the old boiler braker is the one on the right 16A braker. I've plugged in my multi meter the the end line cable of the junction box (old boiler line) and tryed turning on the 16A braker. I've found that the braker stays on while it's connected to the multimeter but when there is nothing connected to the end cable the braker will not stay on. Is this today with the rcd, of a possible fault

 

[nicebutdim]

Out of interest, how is the end of this disused cable terminated? A picture would be ideal, if at all possible.

 

[James]

I am glad to see that you turned off all the power before removing the cover.
the condition of the board makes me shudder just a little bit,
too much cobwebs and exposed copper for my liking, as you say the consumer unit is about to be upgraded, i would suggest that you leave it alone and wait for the electrician that changes it to give his/her verdict.

 

[Stephenmunt]

Out of interest, how is the end of this disused cable terminated? A picture would be ideal, if at all possible.

 

[Stephenmunt]

I am glad to see that you turned off all the power before removing the cover.
the condition of the board makes me shudder just a little bit,
too much cobwebs and exposed copper for my liking, as you say the consumer unit is about to be upgraded, i would suggest that you leave it alone and wait for the electrician that changes it to give his/her verdict.

Yes I was thinking the same thing. First time I've opened and not happy with it. I've also requested from my energy provider if they are able to put in an isolation switch so that it will be easier to work on the C/U without having to touch the cutout braker and get a knock at the door lol

 

[ipf]

It's not much of spider's web.......except for the spiders' webs.
Love the spelin, by the way.

 

[ipf]

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It's wagoscience, Stephen. Nice one,

 

[Stephenmunt]

It's wagoscience, Stephen. Nice one,

Didn't like them much to start with but falling in love with them lol

 

[ipf]

Didn't like them much to start with but falling in love with them lol

They're like Roses......they grow on you.

 

[nicebutdim]

They're like Roses......they grow on you.

 

[Other_Tucker]

I'd bet that's the old 'water heater' supply. Your immersion heater feed for the hot water tank you may not have anymore. Perfect if you need a 16a feed to something in your airing cupboard, I'd even repurpose that for a dedicated gaming PC supply, or run your lights and model trains in your loft off of it.

It is not a shower cable

 

[Stephenmunt]

I'd bet that's the old 'water heater' supply. Your immersion heater feed for the hot water tank you may not have anymore. Perfect if you need a 16a feed to something in your airing cupboard, I'd even repurpose that for a dedicated gaming PC supply, or run your lights and model trains in your loft off of it.

It is not a shower cable

Nice one, was thinking I could place some plug sockets in the attic and maybe have some plug and play cctv plugs as it will be easier to wire them in all 4 corners of the house from outside also realised that yes its not a 10mm cable, even though it just so happens to measure 10mm across lol. I think alot of ppl think I'm going to dive into the C/U and just have s DIY go at this. I'm not lol. I just need to know wat is wat in my house so I know what to spot and understand what I have, or need, or need to get repaired by a sparky. Also I've just found a 6mm cable that was from the old shower in the attic so happy days. Let's hope it don't need changing for a 10mm

 

[Other_Tucker]

Nice one, was thinking I could place some plug sockets in the attic and maybe have some plug and play cctv plugs as it will be easier to wire them in all 4 corners of the house from outside also realised that yes its not a 10mm cable, even though it just so happens to measure 10mm across lol. I think alot of ppl think I'm going to dive into the C/U and just have s DIY go at this. I'm not lol. I just need to know wat is wat in my house so I know what to spot and understand what I have, or need, or need to get repaired by a sparky. Also I've just found a 6mm cable that was from the old shower in the attic so happy days. Let's hope it don't need changing for a 10mm

10mm² is the area of the live conductor looked at end on, the cross sectional area when you strip off the secondary and primary insulation. Imagine a square, it would be 3.2mm x 3.2mm of copper. The individual brown and blue conductors are almost the size of pencils.

That 6mm cable is only useful if it's 1 - electrically sound, 2 - actually appears in your CU, 3- You can add it as a new circuit to the existing CU with matching breakers 4 - Get your new circuit tested and signed off by building control or a CPS member 5 - Have a crappy shower less than 7.2kw

 

[Stephenmunt]

10mm² is the area of the live conductor looked at end on, the cross sectional area when you strip off the secondary and primary insulation. Imagine a square, it would be 3.2mm x 3.2mm of copper. The individual brown and blue conductors are almost the size of pencils.

That 6mm cable is only useful if it's 1 - electrically sound, 2 - actually appears in your CU, 3- You can add it as a new circuit to the existing CU with matching breakers 4 - Get your new circuit tested and signed off by building control or a CPS member 5 - Have a crappy shower less than 7.2kw

Lol I was just thinking would it be worth having a crappy lower power shower lol but no.

Thank you for all your information. It's really helpful. I know know exactly what I need and what I need to ask for from an electrician.