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Do you think they test it correctly?Really,so what do you do with hand dryers ,a heater in a w.c on a switched fused spur I'm learning here by the way I can't see this paying well especially for the companies that charge very little per item.
No, however I'm interested to what members do on here as I've always taken the view that portable appliances with a plug was tested with a PAT tester and fixed appliances was part of the electrical installation and done on the EICR.Do you think they test it correctly?
Got to say this is what we do so I am interested how you PAT test these fixed items.Any fixed equipment I IR test with the circuit and check earth continuity.
Agreed but as a company you should be keeping a log of applainces , make , serial no , etc , last - next inspection labelAny fixed equipment I IR test with the circuit and check earth continuity.
Your Engineer is wrong, you do need to Test fixed equipment, and it's not PATesting it's ISITEE see attachment.Been asked this question today by one of our engineers , do you need to pat test / test fixed appliances / equipment ( hand dryers , heaters etc )
My opinion Yes he thinks no
Something we don’t really do but know we really should and keep records of these tests
Maybe I'm missing something here but please enlighten me as how you practically would do this on sat a fixed heater fed via switched fused spur. All the PAT testers that I know of you have to plug the item into.
Maybe I'm missing something here but please enlighten me as how you practically would do this on sat a fixed heater fed via switched fused spur. All the PAT testers that I know of you have to plug the item into.
When conducting an EICR you are inspecting and testing the fixed wiring, power consuming items, such as hand driers etc are NOT part of the fixed wiring, to put it in perspective would you ISITEE (PATest) during an EICR? answer not unless you have charged the client for testing these items, it's a separate job to be priced separately. Unless these tests are in the price for the EICR I can visualise the EICR being very time consuming, more than you would normally expect. The need to document all these items would add hours to an EICR.No, however I'm interested to what members do on here as I've always taken the view that portable appliances with a plug was tested with a PAT tester and fixed appliances was part of the electrical installation and done on the EICR.
Refer to part 5 of the CoP for types of equipment, the equipment does not need to be plugged in to be tested, I would suggest to those in doubt read the CoP and inwardly digest.The problem is caused almost entirely by the term 'PAT testing'. a) much of it is inspection rather than test, and b) it's not just plug-in portable equipment that needs to be tested (fridges aren't portable for instance, but need inspection/test).
As Pete says above, the correct term is ISITEE, and is governed by the code of practice. All is explained in there (well mostly all - it does leave a few things open).
Some hotels put hairdriers, trouser presses etc. on FCUs, but they are not part of the fixed wiring as such, and they need testing (or inspecting, as appropriate).
The deciding factor is not whether the item has a plug on or not.
I wish the term 'PAT test' had never been invented - I spend much time explaining things to people because of this!
The ISITEE is not a statutory document but those listed in #8 are and how you comply may lead you to this CoP.
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