fire rated or not down lightd

[Simon-0116]

Looked at job for a builder to put down lights in soffit of a porch, single storey flat roof 2m x 2m. But void is only 80mm deep, told him he should have built it bigger but just says put them down lights in with no covers. My I dea was fireproof down lights, but not enough room. So as its outside, only one story do they need to be fireproof????

 

[pcam1984]

You could fit non fireproof and use led lamps to reduce the heat if there's not enough room for fire rated.

 

[sparky87]

hi simon, if it is hasn't got a habital room above then no requirement for fire rated fittings to be installed, is there insulation in void? and what is ceiling material? presuming internal not external? confused about sofit as this is the external overhang normally.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Aurora M5 LED Downlight IP65 Fixed 10W Fire Rated AU-FRL501

only 65mm in height.

 

[mansabadman]

Aurora M5 LED Downlight IP65 Fixed 10W Fire Rated AU-FRL501

only 65mm in height.

The Click Inceptor Micro Non-Dimmable 7W LED Downlight 4000K (LED4300WH7C) in a White finish is another quality product from Click. The Click Inceptor Micro Non-Dimmable 7W LED Downlight 4000K (LED4300WH7C) is available at electrical2go for only £15.


Or try these. A good led, very shallow above the ceiling.

 

[D Skelton]

Haler H2 are only 70mm high

Fire rated are only needed to maintain fire barriers. Typically, these will only be found between floors of separate properties, ie. in the ceiling of a ground floor flat. If there's no second floor flat then the downlights in the ceiling of the first floor flat need not be fire rated.

A lot of misinformation out there about when you need and don't need to maintain fire barriers.

 

[Leesparkykent]

The Click Inceptor Micro Non-Dimmable 7W LED Downlight 4000K (LED4300WH7C) in a White finish is another quality product from Click. The Click Inceptor Micro Non-Dimmable 7W LED Downlight 4000K (LED4300WH7C) is available at electrical2go for only £15.


Or try these. A good led, very shallow above the ceiling.

IF being fitted in a soffit outside though personally I would go with the Aurora as it has a better IP rating.

 

[TJ Anderson]

Haler H2 are only 70mm high

Fire rated are only needed to maintain fire barriers. Typically, these will only be found between floors of separate properties, ie. in the ceiling of a ground floor flat. If there's no second floor flat then the downlights in the ceiling of the first floor flat need not be fire rated.

A lot of misinformation out there about when you need and don't need to maintain fire barriers.

You also require fire rated in a standard two storey house. You would need this to maintain the 30 min rating of a standard plasterboard ceiling. http://www.downlights.co.uk/files/ESC-Fire-Rated-Downlights.pdf?334762691

 

[davesparks]

Planning Portal - Approved Document B - Fire safety: Volume 1 - Dwellinghouses

 

[Simon-0116]

Thanks for the quick genuine response, yes external soffits but always tried to fit fire rated before as a good practice measure. And correct that there are many misconception of fire rating rules, thanks