I am cancelling NIC and joining NAPIT

[Electricalserv]

Got it 2391 2360 1+2 2382 2377.
EAL

You are exactly who Napit want

 

[timo1]

Hi P11jor, It's a real shame that you have been so unimpressed with NICEIC, however the set of circumstances you found yourself in was quite unfortunate and I'm not sure any other scheme would have done any different? Don't they all say words to the effect that you will be liable for costs if appointments not met?

I am with NICEIC and although it seems they are not well liked, I can only say that my experience with them has been very positive. My assesor was a complete gent and could not have been more helpful, I have also contacted the tech dept and found them to be helpful and realistic and can't say I was left waiting for ages on the phone either. When I booked my assesments I didnt pay LABC I just notified after I passed and it wasnt even an issue raised, perhaps I have been very lucky.

Please dont be offended by my post, if I had the choice I would rather not fork out to any scheme believe me, just trying to introduce some balance lol.

 

[Goody]

im only with nic because most people have heard of them. helpline is pretty poor as they normally refer you back to 7671 instead of offering their stance on anything.
they are all the same price to join and notify work so if you arent worried about public opinion go with the one that suits you needs

When you are a domestic installer, house owners or people living in the house don't care who you are registered with; they only want a neat & reliable job and a certifacte thereafter. it's only the public sector organisations that emphasis on NICEIC certificate.

 

[flukey]

When you are a domestic installer, house owners or people living in the house don't care who you are registered with; they only want a neat & reliable job and a certifacte thereafter.

you gotta be kidding?? most people want the cheapest job possible and couldnt give a ---- about a certificate.
from personal experience i have found that most people i meet have heard of niceic and think that means you are an electrician so gives them some confidence in you.
most people have never even heard of the other schemes, that is why i chose nic. if you believe otherwise then you can join whichever scheme suits you.
at the end of the day the nic have the biggest public profile and their charges are the same as other scheme providers so until the others do something about it by offering reduced membership costs or changing public opinion i wont be changing

 

[Electricalserv]

Flukey, Whilst the NICEIC is 100% the most known scheme I disagree that peopel don't know about other schemes. Put it this way in my area you see 10 Napit logos to every 2 NICEIC logos and tahts just the way its going in my area!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Been alot of posts about cost being the same.

I think you'll find its just shy of a grand to be an AC for NIC. Same registration at NAPIT just under 400. Been working many years, my work speaks for itself, i have never ever lost a job because im not NIC, in fact never been asked who am with. Maybe once or twice if registered for part P.

 

[flukey]

Flukey, Whilst the NICEIC is 100% the most known scheme I disagree that peopel don't know about other schemes. Put it this way in my area you see 10 Napit logos to every 2 NICEIC logos and tahts just the way its going in my area!

and if that happens in my area i will probably do the same. as i said its personal preference, got nothing against the other scams its what works for you and nic works for me, at present

 

[flukey]

Been alot of posts about cost being the same.

I think you'll find its just shy of a grand to be an AC for NIC. Same registration at NAPIT just under 400. Been working many years, my work speaks for itself, i have never ever lost a job because im not NIC, in fact never been asked who am with. Maybe once or twice if registered for part P.

think the op is refering to domestic installer, not ac. the price you quote is + vat too

 

[Electricalserv]

Btw Napit is £576 all whether defined or full scope. Elecsa are the ones just under £400

 

[The Dav]

i just had my niceic mcs on friday had no problems at all just a couple of ncos on paperwork i think its luck of the draw!!

 

[Sjn electrical]

Hi mate, NIC are renowned for this kind of thing, to be honest they are probably all the same, but i'm with ELECSA and I've always found them really helpful when needed.

I have joined Elesca because i found nic to be so rude and NON helpful or interested.
I would recomend Elecsa to everyone. They were so helpful and supportive.

 

[Goody]

you gotta be kidding?? most people want the cheapest job possible and couldnt give a ---- about a certificate.
from personal experience i have found that most people i meet have heard of niceic and think that means you are an electrician so gives them some confidence in you.
most people have never even heard of the other schemes, that is why i chose nic. if you believe otherwise then you can join whichever scheme suits you.
at the end of the day the nic have the biggest public profile and their charges are the same as other scheme providers so until the others do something about it by offering reduced membership costs or changing public opinion i wont be changing

Yes, some of them don't want to part with money and they don't care for any certificate, likewise they are not bothered as who you are registered with. Some will turn away if you tell them that you are a NICEIC electrician because they think your charges will be beyond their reach.

The public has a misconception on registered electricians in general and this opens the backdoor for the cowboys.

 

[i=p/u]

but dont you think the powers above are creating this misconception

 

[flukey]

Yes, some of them don't want to part with money and they don't care for any certificate, likewise they are not bothered as who you are registered with. Some will turn away if you tell them that you are a NICEIC electrician because they think your charges will be beyond their reach.

The public has a misconception on registered electricians in general and this opens the backdoor for the cowboys.

just goes to show how it differs from area to area

 

[Electricalserv]

Hi p11jor, sorry to hear of the hassle you're having.

feel free to contact NAPIT for some obligation-free advice on 0845 543 0330.

Sincerely...

Ant @ NAPIT.

Edit* contacted by PM

 

[Electricalserv]

Hi Electricalserv,

I merely suggested a source of info for p11jor. Judging by your comment I can only deduct that the advice given will be to pursue the 17th Edition, 2391 etc that you've highlighted.

Apologies if I've inadvertantly caused you concern

Ant @ NAPIT.

No Ant you haven't.

It came up the other day that yopu can get on napits full scope with a 5 day ISO course. I'm unhappy with that and id like to know who I can contact to complain

 

[BlueToBits]

In the days before Part Pee The NICEIC was a charity based consumer organisation where it put the electrical safety interests of the consumer's first, they had no concern for the interests of their approved contractors. Electricians did not need to be registered with any organisation and the NIC approval was seen as a mark of those that voluntarily offered themselves up for techical scrutiny so they could wear the NICEIC badge with pride. Of course the NICEIC is a now a business, but the ethos still remains in there somewhere and perhaps that's why it is easier to get registered by other organisations who may have less stringent rules and requirements? I still don't set up any particular jobs for my assessments, I just hand over a list of all work and the assessor picks any two to visit. If I could only offer two jobs that I was happy to be inspected then I would expect to be knocked back by the NICEIC.

 

[Electricalserv]

In the days before Part Pee The NICEIC was a charity based consumer organisation where it put the electrical safety interests of the consumer's first, they had no concern for the interests of their approved contractors. Electricians did not need to be registered with any organisation and the NIC approval was seen as a mark of those that voluntarily offered themselves up for techical scrutiny so they could wear the NICEIC badge with pride. Of course the NICEIC is a now a business, but the ethos still remains in there somewhere and perhaps that's why it is easier to get registered by other organisations who may have less stringent rules and requirements? I still don't set up any particular jobs for my assessments, I just hand over a list of all work and the assessor picks any two to visit. If I could only offer two jobs that I was happy to be inspected then I would expect to be knocked back by the NICEIC.

Its just as easy if not easier to join the NICEIC than any other scheme!

 

[Electricalserv]

Ant @ NAPIT thanks for the information you have been very helpful!

 

[William Irons]

just paid niceic in april for their annual fee engineer came out in may and i just got another bill in today for £340 for the engineer coming in may
I rang them and they said but the anual fee just covers a half days visit RIP OFF
I said to the unhelpful person i talked to that i willl begin the de - registration process and they couldnt have cared less what do we get for the annual fee eh FRESH AIR