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Not according to Dunc, when he tested the adjoining RCBO using the same method as as the first RCBO, all tests went without a hitch!!! So, ...what does that mean???

The way I read it is that the adjoining device is a different type, not another identical one. Could be wrong though. Daz
 
thank god i found this post. exactly same thing happened to me. 20 rcbo's in DB and every one failed. Even went next door to check tester was working. Why does I'm pretty sure that when I have installed these before they have not had that information in the box but they do mention not to insulation test through RCD.
 
thank god i found this post. exactly same thing happened to me. 20 rcbo's in DB and every one failed. Even went next door to check tester was working. Why does I'm pretty sure that when I have installed these before they have not had that information in the box but they do mention not to insulation test through RCD.

RCD testing a RCBO at the device terminals (MEM devices)

With an RCD, the sense coil and associated components are within the mechanism and fabric of the RCD and the conductors attached to the device have no bearing on operation.
An RCD can be tested either at the output terminals or at the end of a final circuit.

This is not the case with some RCBO devices. It has been found on certain installations attaching an RCD tester to the terminals on the RCBO has proved to be hopeless, the RCBO refuses to trip, however a test at the end of the attached circuit proves positive.

Following a consultation with a major MCB, RCD and RCBO manufacturer, it was found that some manufacturer's RCBO’s are constructed in such a way that when the output circuit conductors are connected, the small section of cable that sits within the 'tunnel' through which the conductor runs to the RCBO terminal forms the core of the sense coil.
Testing must be made at a convenient socket or at the end of the circuit using suitable test leads.



NB. The above mentioned devices are manufactured to BS standards and should not be considered as defective products.
When an RCBO does not trip it should not be assumed that the device is one of the above mentioned RCBO’s, leaving vital tests ignored.
The presence of such a device should be verified and appropriate tests made to BS7671.
 
The presence of such a device should be verified and appropriate tests made to BS7671

The opening post told you what was required in order to test these MEM RCBO's, ...connect a few inches of conductor/wire and test conduct tests from these.

To be perfectly honest, i think these MEM pod RCBO'S are a crap idea, that overall costs more than other manufactures all in one units.
 
The pods were a good idea at the time and did work out to be cost effective, especially when adding RCD protection to an existing circuit. They don't make them for the new memshield 3 MCB's as far as i'm aware.

The point about testing them is obvious from looking at them though isn't it? The RCD pod clips on to the top of the MCB and the live passess through it to go into the original MCB terminal, doesn't take a genius to realise the sensing element has got to be in the pod and so testing at the live terminal will be testing before the thing you are trying to test. Its got as much chance of working as testing at the incoming side of any RCD would!
 
These units are NOT the pods that clip on, these are RCBO's, and testing from the terminals, the same as other RCBO's is the problem, with the download I posted, there was a picture which didnt post.

54, I had this problem, thursday night, so I hadnt read the original post, I contacted Meggar in the morning, and they advised me of the situation, and sent me the information, which they had obtained from MEM, but apparently, they where a bit cagey on admitting anything
 
At Last I have down loaded the picture, it does help to explain better



MEM RCBO.JPG
 
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