Motorists could face £100 fine for driving too close to cyclists

[nick00]

....I love this...i am firmly in the middle,as i yearn for immunity from prosecution,for knocking the idiot cyclists in to a firethorn hedge...yet...wanting full use of the highway,when out on my unicycle,as i was,this week

Two wheels are for minions...

Really? I think somebody needs to take your license away as it would seem that you are not fit to be driving around in the community.

 

[PEG]

Really? I think somebody needs to take your license away as it would seem that you are not fit to be driving around in the community.

I agree,and as soon as i can find my unicycle licence,i will be surrendering it forthwith.

....It may have been stolen...there have a spate of thefts,lately,mostly "c"s...

 

[nick00]

I agree,and as soon as i can find my unicycle licence,i will be surrendering it forthwith.

....It may have been stolen...there have a spate of thefts,lately,mostly "c"s...

No, I mean your drivers license. You don't need a license for a bicycle. Maybe you should sit down and read the Highway Code at some point so that you understand these things.

Might also stop you from having silly ideas about injuring other road users that have more right to the roads than you do when driving around.

 

[PEG]

No, I mean your drivers license. You don't need a license for a bicycle. Maybe you should sit down and read the Highway Code at some point so that you understand these things.

Might also stop you from having silly ideas about injuring other road users that have more right to the roads than you do when driving around.

Aaah,sorry fella,i need that...it verifies my entitlement,my AD,HGV,and motorcycle provisions...so quite important,my licenCe (current spelling,in Highway Code)

There are other types of licence....poetic licence...licence given,for activities such as story telling,or humour.

The part of your post,which i do fully concur with,is the accusation that i have silly ideas...which is spot-on

 

[nick00]

Aaah,sorry fella,i need that...it verifies my entitlement,my AD,HGV,and motorcycle provisions...so quite important,my licenCe (current spelling,in Highway Code)

There are other types of licence....poetic licence...licence given,for activities such as story telling,or humour.

The part of your post,which i do fully concur with,is the accusation that i have silly ideas...which is spot-on

Apologies for the shoddy spelling.

Ha ha! You think you have an entitlement to the roads? No, no, no, that's why you're licenCed. You have a licenCe to iuse the road, a revokeable licenCe, no one has any entitlement to the roads; roads are there to be shared.

Your ability to spell licenCe correctly is sadly let down by your misunderstanding of its conditions.

Ta,
Nick.

 

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Apologies for the shoddy spelling.

Ha ha! You think you have an entitlement to the roads? No, no, no, that's why you're licenCed. You have a licenCe to iuse the road, a revokeable licenCe, no one has any entitlement to the roads; roads are there to be shared.

Your ability to spell licenCe correctly is sadly let down by your misunderstanding of its conditions.

Ta,
Nick.

Hi,i never described any entitlement to the roads....i was listing licence entitlements,which is how the DVLA describes the groups i listed.

You are three weeks in,and i feel you may not have the understanding,of my comments...anywho,i'm out

 

[nick00]

Hi,i never described any entitlement to the roads....i was listing licence entitlements,which is how the DVLA describes the groups i listed.

You are three weeks in,and i feel you may not have the understanding,of my comments...anywho,i'm out

Great - have fun being entitled and try to resist knocking anybody off their bikes.

 

[telectrix]

somebody appears to be a typical cyclist. equivalent sense of humour as a turnip.
when cyclists pay towards the upkeep of the roads, they are quite entitled to block country lanes 3 abreast causung a mile long tailback. ( oh, sugar, they already do ).

 

[nick00]

somebody appears to be a typical cyclist. equivalent sense of humour as a turnip.

Yes, well you see this is a silly thing to say. There is no such thing as a typical cyclist, any more than there is a typical electrician, or a typical car driver, or a typical pedestrian. Cyclists are just people; they are doctors, nurses, mums, dads, aunts and uncles. Kids, tradespeople, checkout staff, solicitors, the list goes on. Trying to suggest that these people that get around sometimes on a bike are some sort of homogenous group of humourless bores, is silly. Over 80% of UK adults that use bikes regularly are drivers too. I go to work, I have a family, I have down-to-earth mates that I go to the pub with, so probably no different to anybody else. I also ride a bike sometimes.

You really do need to get over this idea that people that get around on bikes are any different to anyone else, they are just people, some nice, some not so nice, some with a sense of humour, some without.

when cyclists pay towards the upkeep of the roads...

Let me just stop you there, people on bikes do pay for the roads. Roads are funded through general taxation, road tax being abolished in 1937 by Winston Churchill, so that people using cars didn't feel that they were any more entitled to the roads than others, like people on bikes, people walking, or people riding horses. Remember that these groups have a right to the roads by law and that cyclists, incidentally, were the first to campaign for hard surfaced roads, they then shared those roads with people in cars and, what was the upshot of this? Well people in cars got the wrong end of the stick over the years and thought that they had some sort of right to the roads over everybody else. This can be seen when these people come out with things like this:

... they are quite entitled to block country lanes 3 abreast causung a mile long tailback. ( oh, sugar, they already do ).

You see , these people are not blocking roads, they are using roads to get to somewhere, just like people in cars. The fact that they are sometimes 3 abreast is neither here nor there, it is not illegal, not dangerous, and you can just use the other lane to overtake if you need to, just as you would overtake any other slow moving vehicle. In fact overtaking a group of 3 abreast is much easier than 3 in a longer line as you spend less time in the other lane.

So, I hope that clears things up.

Ta,
Nick.

 

[telectrix]

1. if road tax was abolished, why are we paying it to the tune of c.£250/annum.
2. my post was not directed at cyclists in general, just those that clog up narrow roads; don't know what your lanes are like, but ours are mostly just wide enough for 2 cars to pass. we regularly see upwards of 60 cyclists at weekends, in a 200yard pack, taking up almost all the lane's width, wriggling their lycra clad arses at drivers stuck behind. I quote from the Highway code.... "cyclists, on narrow or busy roads, ride in single file."

and these cyclists to whom i refer don't cycle to get anywhere, they just go out for the buzz.

and please bear in mind that a lot of my comments are tongue in cheek. live and let live, i say.

 

[nick00]

1. if road tax was abolished, why are we paying it to the tune of c.£250/annum.

That is VED (Vehicle Excise Duty), its a pollution tax, based on emissions. People on bikes don't need to pay this, just like band A cars, do you moan at them for not paying for the roads? And what about emergency service vehicles, tractors, electric cars, are they all getting away with not paying for the roads? No. Even pedestrians, people without cars pay for the roads, roads are paid for by all of us via general taxation.You can read this BBC page for more information.

2. my post was not directed at cyclists in general, just those that clog up narrow roads; don't know what your lanes are like, but ours are mostly just wide enough for 2 cars to pass. we regularly see upwards of 60 cyclists at weekends, in a 200yard pack, taking up almost all the lane's width, wriggling their lycra clad arses at drivers stuck behind.

This I doubt, but even if its true, they have paid for the roads, they are entitled to use them. You just have to be patient and wait for a safe opportunity to pass, like any good driver, that I am sure you are. You have to try to see that the roads are there to be shared. Like I have said, people on bikes are happy to share the roads with careful drivers, why can't the same be said for some drivers? They aren't doing anything wrong.

I quote from the Highway code.... "cyclists, on narrow or busy roads, ride in single file."

Rule 66, states 'should', not 'must'. Where something is expressed as what you 'must' or 'must not' do in the Highway Code, this is a legal requirement imposed by legislation. 'Should' is advisory, so there is a big difference.

and these cyclists to whom i refer don't cycle to get anywhere, they just go out for the buzz.

You have no way of knowing this but let's say that you're right. Many people in cars and other vehicles go out purely for the enjoyment of travel, so what?

and please bear in mind that a lot of my comments are tongue in cheek. live and let live, i say.

Really? Which ones because you seem pretty anti-anybody-that's-in-my-way-on-a-bike, to me.

 

[telectrix]

if i come across a load of cyclists on a busy road, yes, i w will allow for them. on the other hand, if they knbow i need to pass, and i ain't got room to safely pass, then dothe slim down, pullint 1 or 2 abreast??? not where i am; the buggers pretend that they haven't seen you and happily slow down and wave the finger.

 

[nick00]

if i come across a load of cyclists on a busy road, yes, i w will allow for them. on the other hand, if they knbow i need to pass, and i ain't got room to safely pass, then dothe slim down, pullint 1 or 2 abreast??? not where i am; the buggers pretend that they haven't seen you and happily slow down and wave the finger.

Sorry but why do you think that people should pull aside for you? When riding to work, there are hundreds of cars in my way, queues and queues of them, but I don't expect them to all make room to let me pass. Your journey is no more important than theirs. Just wait until it is safe to pass, you can do that, no?

 

[PEG]

....i'm here at the ropes,Tel...if you need to tag me

I was out on the unicycle this morning....ruddy motorists,swerving all over the place,coz they they are ignorant of circus skills...