Neutrals in light switch

[iamelectric]

starts getting expensive when wiring 3 phase , 5 wagos thats about 2 quid 5 bits of connector block 50p

 

[trev]

starts getting expensive when wiring 3 phase , 5 wagos thats about 2 quid 5 bits of connector block 50p

5 bits of tape, priceless

 

[Sharpend]

So using insulated tape on the neutrals to separate them from the earths when fixing in the rear of backbox is wrong?????

 

[amlu]

no need for tape with wagos

 

[Adam W]

I don't have the need, as i've never looped through the switches and never will!!

I suppose in that case the question would be "how do you connect the live loop in a fitting where there the manufacturer has made no provision for it?"

 

[Sharpend]

But the assessor asked for the neutrals to be fixed to back box. Wago won't achieve this!

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Nothing against a neutral in the switch back box, but only as and when it's required. Looping a complete circuit through switch boxes is another matter altogether!

Presumably you also have nothing against looping a perm live through a 3 plate light as long as it's required......oh,it isn't though is it?....

 

[amlu]

if assesor wants to be pain then get some self adhesive cable tie mounts (toolstation stocks it),
fix them into boxes using a screw each and hold the wires with a cable tie.

 

[Amp David]

But the assessor asked for the neutrals to be fixed to back box. Wago won't achieve this!

Grip fill, super glue or even velcro.

Why use any kind of tape to wrap the choc block, if you aint got strands hangin out then you'll be reet

 

[Adam W]

Before sliced bread what was the best thing?

Beer? Cheese?
I would say those two are much better than sliced bread, in fact sliced bread is pretty rubbish in comparison.
I think 'the best thing since sliced bread' relates to 'the best thing in recent times' rather than 'the best thing ever', otherwise people would compare things to 'the best thing since beer'.

 

[Adam W]

But the assessor asked for the neutrals to be fixed to back box. Wago won't achieve this!

In accordance with which reg?
The lives aren't fixed to the backbox either, the terminals in the switch are fixed to the switchplate, not the backbox. Until you screw the plate back they're in a similar predicament to neutrals in a bit of terminal block or a wago.
The reason cpcs are terminated in the backbox is to earth the backbox, not because they need to be secured; if I were terminating cpcs in a plastic backbox with a plastic switchplate I'd have no problem terminating those in a bit of connector block or wago as well.

 

[shagbite]

it sounds like your assessor's been sniffing the conduit adhesive.

 

[telectrix]

don't they thread conduit anymore?

 

[Dazza]

As mentioned, I couldn't think of a reg that prohibited a neutral in a switch box. The point made about fixing to cable tie base is a valid one at least the neutrals are attached to a fixed point. As also mentioned I think the schemes like to think up these things so they can at least pick us up on something in our assessments!

 

[telectrix]

I think the schemes like to think up these things so they can at least pick us up on something in our assessments!

got it in one! BS7671 rewritten by scam providers.

 

[iamelectric]

i answered this thread on the forth post y is it still going TELL HIM TO F OFF

 

[MDJ]

To make the thread more interesting----------------I always wire feed and neutrals to the switches and only have switch wires and neutrals at lights, I wago the connections in the switch boxes and also always use a minimum 10 amp rated switch in domestic situations, pick the bones out of that :smilielol5:

 

[iamelectric]

always handy to have a neutral at the switch

 

[jamesBoater]

Maybe the assessor should be asked where in BS7671 it says what he/she is asking. How can they pick you up on what is just their personal opinion?

 

[Darkwood]

Ironic that there are thousands of so called qualified spakies out there doing poor work and all this assessor seems to be fussed about is something that is neither against BS7671 nor IMHO of any concern if in a suitable connector etc.... looks like they are trying to justify the extortionate charges the command.

 

[iamelectric]

hes being pedantic , you done a good job and he couldnt find anything wrong with it so he picked out something stupid to make himself feel better

 

[D Skelton]

To make the thread more interesting----------------I always wire feed and neutrals to the switches and only have switch wires and neutrals at lights, I wago the connections in the switch boxes and also always use a minimum 10 amp rated switch in domestic situations, pick the bones out of that :smilielol5:

Here here! When you're a lazy sod like me it's far easier and far quicker to wago up your connections at the switch (conveniently placed at arm height!) than up a ladder watching your sleeving continuously fall off your CPCs, back down to get the snips, CRAP! forgot the pliers, oops, need some brown and blue sleeving, hate heights, crooked neck, wobbly ladder, oopsy daisy off I go... Broken neck!

All you "meh, can't three plate at the switches" lot can sod off!

 

[Sharpend]

Well said darkwood, that's the truth of the matter.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Before sliced bread what was the best thing?

That's an easy one Trev .................. GEORDIES of course !! :50:

 

[Geordie Spark]

But the assessor asked for the neutrals to be fixed to back box. Wago won't achieve this!

OK ................ so gaffa tape the Wago to the back of the back box ...........sssimples!!! :sunny:

 

[Geordie Spark]

Beer? Cheese?
I would say those two are much better than sliced bread, in fact sliced bread is pretty rubbish in comparison.
I think 'the best thing since sliced bread' relates to 'the best thing in recent times' rather than 'the best thing ever', otherwise people would compare things to 'the best thing since beer'.

I really enjoy reading your posts Adam ....... they always are bang on the nail & make a lot of sense!!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Before sliced bread what was the best thing?

That's an easy one Trev .................. GEORDIES of course !! :50:

That means sliced bread is better than Geordies!!! :tounge_smile:

 

[Geordie Spark]

That means sliced bread is better than Geordies!!! :tounge_smile:

Aye ... ok .............. clivvor shyte!!! :banghead:

 

[telectrix]

sliced geordie is better than bread..... love it! :behead:

 

[Geordie Spark]

sliced geordie is better than bread..... love it! :behead:

Typical Scouser ........ the only thing about a Scouser that can put in full day's work is his gob !!