UK No enclosure in feeder pillar

[21Craig]

Hi

after some advice on this, had a job to look at which involved replacing some ev chargers that were already there, the current set up is they go back to a feeder pillar, the chargers connect into rcds all the current protection is in place however the rcds/Mcbs are clipped onto din rails with no enclosure?
I don’t think this is right but the regs state that if is behind a lockable door then it complies?
Can anyone help?

 

[Sparkingmad]

Can you provide pics?

 

[Pete999]

Hi

after some advice on this, had a job to look at which involved replacing some ev chargers that were already there, the current set up is they go back to a feeder pillar, the chargers connect into rcds all the current protection is in place however the rcds/Mcbs are clipped onto din rails with no enclosure?
I don’t think this is right but the regs state that if is behind a lockable door then it complies?
Can anyone help?

Is the "feeder pillar" not locked then? and who keeps the FP keys the AP?

 

[21Craig]

Is the "feeder pillar" not locked then? and who keeps the FP keys the AP?

The feeder pillar is kept locked and the on site maintenance team have the key to access it only!

 

[DPG]

The feeder pillar is kept locked and the on site maintenance team have the key to access it only!

That's the enclosure then isn't it?

 

[Pete999]

The feeder pillar is kept locked and the on site maintenance team have the key to access it only!

The it's in an Enclosure then isn't it? trying to make something out of nothing in my opinion.

 

[Zerax]

BS7671:
Enclosure... A part providing protection of equipment against certain external influences and in any direction providing basic protection.
Basic Protection... Protection against electric shock under fault-free conditions. (For LV installations, systems and equipment, basic protection generally corresponds to protection against direct contact, that is "contact of persons or livestock with live parts.)

 

[Pete999]

BS7671:
Enclosure... A part providing protection of equipment against certain external influences and in any direction providing basic protection.
Basic Protection... Protection against electric shock under fault-free conditions. (For LV installations, systems and equipment, basic protection generally corresponds to protection against direct contact, that is "contact of persons or livestock with live parts.)

In this case the feeder Pillar (The enclosure) is providing all the things mentioned in your post

















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BS7671:
Enclosure... A part providing protection of equipment against certain external influences and in any direction providing basic protection.
Basic Protection... Protection against electric shock under fault-free conditions. (For LV installations, systems and equipment, basic protection generally corresponds to protection against direct contact, that is "contact of persons or livestock with live parts.)

 

[westward10]

This possibly falls under Section 714. See Regulation 714.411.2.201 whereby there is a requirement for basic protection behind the primary enclosure whether locked or not. This degree of protection shall be IPXXB or IP2X by construction or br installation, or by installing a barrier or an enclosure giving the same degree of protection. If so then you are correct.

 

[DPG]

This possibly falls under Section 714. See Regulation 714.411.2.201 whereby there is a requirement for basic protection behind the primary enclosure whether locked or not. This degree of protection shall be IPXXB or IP2X by construction or br installation, or by installing a barrier or an enclosure giving the same degree of protection. If so then you are correct.

I think I need to read this section then!