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Dartlec

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Lighting installs are always fun when the client buys the light...

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This one was the latest effort - and the first time I've seen wire nuts provided as terminals in a light fitting. Not a US company either, but German, so suprised they didn't go with Wagos or similar.

Also came with some heatshrink tubing, but no clear instructions as to what to do with it!

Needless to say they were replaced for Wago fittings, but are wire nuts used much in Europe as well?

I remember 12 years or so back Ideal were pushing them over here at a trade show, because their sales director was American I think, and they are used a lot there. Never been sure how they fit with out regulations, though he was adamant at the time that they were perfectly compliant.

I have come across some of the original ones in situ from when we did use them way back, but they were all ceramic with no metal insert.

For those following at home, the wire nuts were meant to go in number 3 on the drawing, inside the lower body part - where the cables from each 'arm' had to be connected to the main cable running up the pole, so 4 very thin (0.5mm at most stranded flex) and 1 maybe 1mm thicker cable to connect with the nuts.

No idea on the heatshrink. It wasn't a Class 2 product, so no need for additional sheathing or anything.

Bonus for the awful white termination block thing for main termination too, which I immediately launch into the nearest bin. Whoever designed those and sold them to every light manufacturer needs to go and stand in the naughty corner for many years....

Turned out to be a nice looking lamp though once all installed...
 
I think @Lucien Nunes did a quite in depth explaination of how some wire nuts are actually better than wago… but it had to be a specific size, and type of cable, and shape of nut.

Those little white connection boxes are usually supplied with class II to create double insulated
 
I think the wire-nuts are horrible things.

Yes, they can give a good connection if used correctly, etc, but they are once-only for those wire ends and far more likely to go wrong than Wagos in unskilled/unfamiliar hands.

I am very surprised to see that from a German company as well! USA or China (for USA market) would be no surprise though.
 

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