Which conduit ?

[Guest569]

Im pricing some external lighting on several industrial units which are all joined. One long length of conduit will suit although its around 150-200yards long. Nice straightforward run with no bends. Its around 8m high and away from any mechanical damage, my only concern is sun damage over time.

Galvanised conduit would be best but a) its going to add a considerable cost to job and b) its going to take much longer to install.

is white PVC ok , should I install black PVC, or should I risk losing the job pricing for galvy ?

The customer will likely want cheapest.

 

[Plonker 3]

starting to think armour would be pretty quick , 2 men cherry picker , chalk line , hold , clip hold, hold , clip ....gland...box light , hold clip hold clip...

At my pace Ill rattle 200 yards in a day

Or be in the pub by lunch, and use a laser level

 

[Guest569]

quoting around 4k including VAT,

Require x5 80w LEDs, few drums or armour or conduit plus singles, accessories etc.

Cherry picker for 1 week , all very basic runs and routes ....

what you think ?

 

[High Tower]

FP is useless as far to soft!, galv would be my choice, if it's a straight run then it's about 65 lengths, with a thro box every 9m, you can get away with saddling galv on a horizontal plain every 800, where as SWA will need clipping every 300 on the horizontal, two of us could put that lot up and have it wired in 3 days.

SWA is your other alternative but be warned, 6x2.5 and 3x 1.5 conductors in a t box will be bordering on a bit tight.

 

[Guest569]

Or be in the pub by lunch, and use a laser level

next on my toy list

 

[Plonker 3]

Would probably pay for itself on this job alone if your price is correct.

 

[KAS1]

2 x Tubes of "No more nails" and Bob's your uncle, in the pub by 11am

 

[MDJ]

quoting around 4k including VAT,

Require x5 80w LEDs, few drums or armour or conduit plus singles, accessories etc.

Cherry picker for 1 week , all very basic runs and routes ....

what you think ?

Well without actually costing the materials myself I cannot confirm the price either way, however first impression it seems a good quote actually, works out about 3,250 ish plus vat.

 

[telectrix]

3" galv tray on stand-offs then cable tie SWA. future proofing for any new cable runs.:drool5:

 

[telectrix]

Well without actually costing the materials myself I cannot confirm the price either way, however first impression it seems a good quote actually, works out about 3,250 ish plus vat.

sounds like you've recovered from your sourcreamflow binge.

 

[MDJ]

sounds like you've recovered from your sourcreamflow binge.

Only just, never again lol

 

[High Tower]

3" galv tray on stand-offs then cable tie SWA. future proofing for any new cable runs.:drool5:

If it was going to be done in SWA, I'd genuinely consider doing it this way as I hate clipping SWA!

 

[Guest569]

Well without actually costing the materials myself I cannot confirm the price either way, however first impression it seems a good quote actually, works out about 3,250 ish plus vat.

Leds approx £500
Armour 200m £200
Cherry Picker £ 250
Glands accessories etc £100
2 way board £45
Dusk till dawn etc £60

Approx £1200 material
Approx £2000 labour ,

5 days , 40 hours @ 30/h = 1200 x 2(men) = £2400
£2400+£1200 = £3600+VAT.

Likely do it in 2 days though so prob pretty good now that Ive actually calculated it !

My 4k estimate was from the dartboard ;p

 

[High Tower]

Big mistake on your cherry picker, unless you have one parked in your living room, cheapest picker is about £300 PLUS delivery which is usually around 80-100 depending on size.

 

[MDJ]

Overall quote isn't far away I suspect, it comes down to margins now whether you want the job or not, another firm who needs the work would stick a pair on the job, the spark would be 25 and the mate 18 ish so 43 quid at 40 hours more like 1700.00 rather than 2,400.00. that said I like your price, lets hope the customer will agree.

 

[Guest55]

your price is on the high side to be honest

and £30 per hour for your helper / sidekick ?

savvy customers wont pay for that , no chance.
as others have said , more hungry contractors will happily undercut that by £500.

 

[ipf]

SWA all the way. Newlec do a very solid pvc adapt box with connectors (8025, I think), piranhna lock nuts for earth continuity.

 

[Guest569]

Quote as left my inbox :0

£4268 Inclusive of VAT.

 

[MDJ]

Well good luck, if they do get other quotes you may lose it on the labour cost, I hope you get it, a job like this will be good for you, a change from rewiring a house a day haha

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

Speak to Marvo, he knows where to get some cracking SWA!

 

[Guest569]

Well good luck, if they do get other quotes you may lose it on the labour cost, I hope you get it, a job like this will be good for you, a change from rewiring a house a day haha

Yeah actually keen to do it will make a nice change !

Ive had a few jobs lately out with my field, was asked to quote on some maintenance work for the commonwealth games, but think Ive over priced that one slightly.

 

[ipf]

Well good luck, if they do get other quotes you may lose it on the labour cost, I hope you get it, a job like this will be good for you, a change from rewiring a house a day haha

Yeah, more like one light per day...hehe.

 

[MDJ]

Yeah actually keen to do it will make a nice change !

Ive had a few jobs lately out with my field, was asked to quote on some maintenance work for the commonwealth games, but think Ive over priced that one slightly.

Well you Scots do have short arms and deep pockets.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

You might be alright with 1.0mm on a 1A MCB :gunsmilie:

 

[High Tower]

Speak to Marvo, he knows where to get some cracking SWA!

It was Sintra

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

It was Sintra

bah, took a 50/50 guess and got it wrong!!

 

[MDJ]

bah, took a 50/50 guess and got it wrong!!

You would do well in the DIY forum LOL

 

[Geordie Spark]

SWA all the way , IMO< wirh ad. boxes at eacht fitting on flex

How's the beer tonight Tel? :17:

or are you typing with your feet??

 

[Geordie Spark]

1.5? 200 mtrs? hmm

Leave him alone .... he's just learning.

 

[Geordie Spark]

2 x Tubes of "No more nails" and Bob's your uncle, in the pub by 11am

You need a couple of rolls of Gaffa Tape to hold it all in place while the No more Nails sets.

 

[guest119]

SWA into galv t boxes with a stuffing gland at each fitting for me please? Volt drop will need to be considered as mr B stated.

Unnecessary joints, yuk.

Boydy

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SWA all the way. Newlec do a very solid pvc adapt box with connectors (8025, I think), piranhna lock nuts for earth continuity.

Yuk, joints!

Boydy