thanks for your thoughts guys,college/nvq route sounds the best option,there is that may various ''elecctrician'' qualifications these days,was thinkin there may have been a better option,but these fast or online quals all seem a bit shady.iv worked with a few of these ''sparks''and they may have well have got their cards free in a box of corn flakes coz they all had no idea wot they were doing,wouldnt want to be labelled as one on first impressions