Amendment now problems later

[cliffed]

Doing a EICR in a college…there have been many over the years, it’s approximately 50 years old & improvement happens every so often.
The new amendment concerning all areas of the installation on support of cables to prevent premature collapse.
This college consists of plastic containment throughout its corridors & on fire exit routes.
My opinion on this maybe a recommendation C3… & noted to whom concerned, this would require major works throughout.
Some of this containment is above false suspended ceilings, most clipped direct to the concrete floor of the above floor & visible, any advice much appreciated

 

[westward10]

Nothing new about cable support in the new amendment.

 

[cliffed]

Agree, nothing mentioned in any other EICR’s either, about the supports, but with all the news on the cable containment, should this now be noted…

 

[UNG]

Have you actually checked the plastic containment doesn't have metal clips fitted internally throughout or is the best way forward to put it down as a limitation and as such not verified
A C3 code could leave you looking a bit daft if you haven't verified it throughout and to do that could be very time consuming

 

[westward10]

Agree, nothing mentioned in any other EICR’s either, about the supports, but with all the news on the cable containment, should this now be noted…

It isn't news it needs noting. I tend to take a sample inspection on a site just to check because as above you can't always see it.

 

[cliffed]

Have you actually checked the plastic containment doesn't have metal clips fitted internally throughout or is the best way forward to put it down as a limitation and as such not verified
A C3 code could leave you looking a bit daft if you haven't verified it throughout and to do that could be very time consuming

It’s definitely not compliant

 

[UNG]

It’s definitely not compliant

So you have done a very thorough EICR then, removing all the lids to verify it

 

[cliffed]

So you have done a very thorough EICR then removing all the lids to verify it

Yes its been up for @ least 15 years…

 

[UNG]

Yes its been up for @ least 15 years…

So you are making an assumption on the age of the installation and haven't removed all the containment lids to verify it as it would take a lot of time and risk damaging the plastic containment which often becomes brittle as it ages

 

[cliffed]

So you are making an assumption on the age of the installation and haven't removed all the containment lids to verify it as it would take a lot of time and risk damaging the plastic containment which often becomes brittle as it ages

The college was built in the 60’s, the plastic trunking was fixed to the concrete ceilings, this trunking & plastic conduits are seen in all corridors on 1st floor up to the 3rd floors, & also on fire exit routes from corridors to staircase.
Several EICR have been performed in the years, no mention of this, seeing the importance of premature collapse of wiring systems, what would be the correct assumption to make.
My opinion would be a note & a classification code would maybe Code 2