Best 4x4 for 20K .

[MDJ]

Views please.

 

[Nigel]

Can get a half-decent RR for £20k mate.

 

[MDJ]

Can get a half-decent RR for £20k mate.

Cheers Pal, I have heard, and I may be wrong, but they have issues and cost a lot to run, I was thinking about a Shogun?

 

[telectrix]

Cheers Pal, I have heard, and I may be wrong, but they have issues and cost a lot to run, I was thinking about a Shogun?

had a shogun. was a diesel guzzler. 24mpg. look at Jeep Cherokee diesel.

Used Jeep Cherokee Diesel for Sale | Motors.co.uk - https://www.motors.co.uk/used-cars/jeep/cherokee/fuel/diesel/

 

[MDJ]

had a shogun. was a diesel guzzler. 24mpg. look at Jeep Cherokee diesel.

Have looked at the grand cherekee fella, the new ones are great, 5 years warrenty etc, but the older versions have very bad press regarding the on board computer, if the warrenty was 5 years I would go for one, but a second hand one will have 6 months at best and 20k will only get me a 2014 with 40k on the clock so a no go.

 

[telectrix]

2016 for that.
Check out this Jeep Cherokee that I have just found on #motorscouk - https://www.motors.co.uk/car-50018162/?i=1&m=sp

 

[MDJ]

Alright Big head lol, seriously cheers for that Tel, didn't think I could get a 2016 at 20k, will look into the Jeeps, still open for other suggestions as well.

 

[JD6400]

What are you looking to use it for , and how many people do you want to fit in it ?

 

[MDJ]

What are you looking to use it for , and how many people do you want to fit in it ?

Very good questions, cheers, well it is for towing my 2 ton Caravan, taking my dogs out to shows/ events, carrying waste etc to the tip, driving in Snow which we see a lot here, and carrying me the wife and probably 2 passengers.

 

[telectrix]

i had a cherokee, one of the square shapes, 1993. best vehicle i ever had. only downside was it was 4l petrol, 18mpg, but it would pull a house, let alone a caravan..

 

[JD6400]

Have you thought about a crew can pickup .
I found the new shape rangers to be better than a car inside and a lot of them out there have not really been worked , especially if you look for one with out a tow kit fitted and get it done for a few hundred yourself !
All of our farming customers that have isuzu's tend to have more than one because they just keep the old one when a new one arrives, which says something !
But the cab is not as plush a a ranger .
Don't touch Mitsubishi , I have had 4 ( old shape ) and you are lucky to get 20000 out of one before some eye watering bills .

 

[JD6400]

Having said that the old shape 60 plate ranger I have at the moment drinks like no other vehicle I have owned , but I am told this is not so on the new shape .
Have also got a 58 plate hilux and this is by far my favourite but it is a bit agricultural inside , but good on fuel and tows like a dream . The new shape ones are probably a lot more refined.
Or you could go for a Mercedes

 

[MDJ]

I wouldn't be interested in a truck mate, but really appreciate your help, it must be a car, a shogun, landrover, jeep etc, not a truck.

 

[MDJ]

I'm thinking something like this https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

 

[JAWS]

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...tising-location=at_cars&sort=sponsored&page=1

 

[Leesparkykent]

For 20k I would look at the Range Rover evoque. If you could stretch a bit further then I’d look a the Jag F-Pace.

 

[telectrix]

that RR evoque is the ugliest rear end i ever seen (apart from diane abbott).

 

[JD6400]

I'm thinking something like this https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807098291350?model=SHOGUN&price-to=20000&radius=1500&make=MITSUBISHI&price-from=14000&transmission=Automatic&postcode=gl33hr&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2013&sort=price-desc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

Each to their own . Got to admit it does look trick !

 

[Squid]

Subaru Forester/Outback, All Wheel Drive RR are a minefield I think one of the issues is that one of the repairs is a body off job.

I drive a 2003 Legacy but mines a Twinscroll Turbo AWD and goes like poo off a shovel.

 

[JD6400]

I'm thinking something like this https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807098291350?model=SHOGUN&price-to=20000&radius=1500&make=MITSUBISHI&price-from=14000&transmission=Automatic&postcode=gl33hr&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2013&sort=price-desc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

Each to their own . Got to admit it does look trick !

 

[Squid]

that RR evoque is the ugliest rear end i ever seen (apart from diane abbott).

You need to look over your shoulder next time you walk past a mirror, Spoon says Diane Abbott is like Naomi Cambell compared to you........

 

[MDJ]

I like the look of the Toyota Land cruiser but for 20k you don't get much

 

[Leesparkykent]

Hyundai Santa-Fe? Could prob pick up a premium SE on a 16-17 plate, under 15K miles with still 3-4 years warranty left on it.

 

[MDJ]

Hyundai Santa-Fe? Could prob pick up a premium SE on a 16-17 plate, under 15K miles with still 3-4 years warranty left on it.

Yep agree, but I have looked at one and the boot space is small, I have 2 dogs who need space in the back, the SF is too small in the back and I am not sure of the towing ability Lee.

 

[Octopus]

Don’t caravan-magazines do reviews that cover this sort of stuff?

 

[MDJ]

Yes they recommend the Kia sorento, but I don't like them, I find asking people about their experiences is better than a magazines view, especially as it is written by one person with a view, not a dozen people who have actually owned a 4x4.

 

[ferg]

I have a Subaru Forester. Love it to bits.

 

[MDJ]

I will look into them

 

[Marvo]

Do you get the Toyota Fortuner in the UK? Sounds like it might fit your bill...

 

[Strima]

LR Discovery 4 3.0 8 speed.

 

[FatAlan]

Lexus 400H - 3.3 petrol / hybrid. 30 to gallon, goes like ---- of a shovel, loads of torque, good in snow. Have had one from new (2008) 160k on clock and so far the only issues I’ve had is normal wear an tear on brakes. Over engineered for US market I’m told.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

Have a look at a Kia Sportage, looks quite sporty, handles really well and you get the rest of the 7 year warranty if its used. can get a 16 plate from a kia dealership for between 16 and 20k I almost got one, but it wouldnt fit in my parking space in the car park!!. so ended up with a kia rio instead.

 

[Squid]

I have a Subaru Forester. Love it to bits.

Out of interest what year?

 

[Squid]

Bowler ;o)))))

 

[Squid]

Lexus 400H - 3.3 petrol / hybrid. 30 to gallon, goes like **** of a shovel, loads of torque, good in snow. Have had one from new (2008) 160k on clock and so far the only issues I’ve had is normal wear an tear on brakes. Over engineered for US market I’m told.

Neighbour has a non Hybrid Lexus they do look like great cars and will outlast a RR.

 

[FatAlan]

Neighbour has a non Hybrid Lexus they do look like great cars and will outlast a RR.

The 450H is the current guise and slightly bigger. No idea on used prices but they have been out a few years now.

 

[PEG]

Can get a half-decent RR for £20k mate.

No,no,no...get an older one,and know you are taking a punt,or a new one,and get ready to use that warranty,but at 20G,you're at the casino
Got dozens of friends and associates,who had TDV6's,and felt like Bernie Madoff was the dealer...

 

[Nigel]

Cheers Pal, I have heard, and I may be wrong, but they have issues and cost a lot to run, I was thinking about a Shogun?

Get a 2011/2012 4.4l V8 diesel V8.

 

[Nigel]

I'm thinking something like this https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807098291350?model=SHOGUN&price-to=20000&radius=1500&make=MITSUBISHI&price-from=14000&transmission=Automatic&postcode=gl33hr&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2013&sort=price-desc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&page=1

No chance.

 

[Midwest]

For 20k I would look at the Range Rover evoque. If you could stretch a bit further then I’d look a the Jag F-Pace.

I'd been considering buy a Discovery Sport (when I used to be rich ).

However it would seem they (and the Evoque) have a nasty little design issue, oil dilution with their diesel engines. So I wouldn't touch a used one with a barge pole.

The F-Pace, which has a similar engine, doesn't have the issue as the engine is not mounted transversally.

 

[Squid]

I'd been considering buy a Discovery Sport (when I used to be rich ).

However it would seem they (and the Evoque) have a nasty little design issue, oil dilution with their diesel engines. So I wouldn't touch a used one with a barge pole.

The F-Pace, which has a similar engine, doesn't have the issue as the engine is not mounted transversally.

You got divorced, thats a real money drainer......... I feel your pain ;o))))

 

[Midwest]

You got divorced, thats a real money drainer......... I feel your pain ;o))))

Don't be an arse, I'm not stupid enough to lose money that way

 

[Squid]

I have one of these, minus the straight through pipes...........

260BHP AWD, fuel consumption errr don't ask 0-60 in 5.9 seconds and it does surprise a lot of people especially the Porsche driver from a couple of weeks okay lol

 

[Squid]

Don't be an arse, I'm not stupid enough to lose money that way

lol, you bought a house for your 23 year old Romanian boyfriend........ ;o))))

 

[Midwest]

lol, you bought a house for your 23 year old Romanian boyfriend........ ;o))))

Nah, but if I did, it wouldn't be a Polish bloke. Got no lead in their pencils, from what I've heard.

 

[ferg]

Out of interest what year?

2016
I got an ex demonstrator basic model.

It was good in the snow and I believe they pull well enough.

 

[PEG]

Get a 2011/2012 4.4l V8 diesel V8.

A pal of mine did just that...lovely looker,went well,not as bad on fuel either...
It's recently come out of Landranger,having had a complete engine,and will have to run faultlessly,for 20 years,to justify his expenditure

We have touched on this topic before,and i'm not a hater me first ever vehicle was a series 2,and i have done plenty of messing with all the models,accepting that individuals issues,are not the full story.

The RR/Disco story,from 15 years back,is one of the emperors new clothes,style over substance,and forceful PR campaign of sponsored promotion. But with design flaws,toy like quality of components,inbuilt maintenance obstruction and exponential depreciation,it has lost my vote...

The TDV6 story,is a case in point. If you bought a new house,you would not expect to encounter issues with gutters,windows,etc,but if you did,and to repair or replace them,you had to take down the outer skin of brickwork,then build it up again,would you be impressed?

The last person this happened to,was me pals father in law,and the vehicle was 3 years old...so no warranty. What did it cost new?

Three times the cost of a property i have,near to Mcr centre....

That can't be right...

 

[Nigel]

A pal of mine did just that...lovely looker,went well,not as bad on fuel either...
It's recently come out of Landranger,having had a complete engine,and will have to run faultlessly,for 20 years,to justify his expenditure

We have touched on this topic before,and i'm not a hater me first ever vehicle was a series 2,and i have done plenty of messing with all the models,accepting that individuals issues,are not the full story.

The RR/Disco story,from 15 years back,is one of the emperors new clothes,style over substance,and forceful PR campaign of sponsored promotion. But with design flaws,toy like quality of components,inbuilt maintenance obstruction and exponential depreciation,it has lost my vote...

The TDV6 story,is a case in point. If you bought a new house,you would not expect to encounter issues with gutters,windows,etc,but if you did,and to repair or replace them,you had to take down the outer skin of brickwork,then build it up again,would you be impressed?

The last person this happened to,was me pals father in law,and the vehicle was 3 years old...so no warranty. What did it cost new?

Three times the cost of a property i have,near to Mcr centre....

That can't be right...

The trick is to buy the last ones in the range. Hence the 2011/12 L322. These years and that engine have a great reputation for reliability. Yes it has design issues that frustrate me but what car doesn't? One thing is you will not get a better 4x4. It is amazing off road and on road.

The other issue is maintenance. People just do not maintain them properly. People purchase really old RRs for relatively cheap money because they want a RR but cannot afford a decent one then also cannot justify £1500 yearly cost in maintaining them. Then they moan when things start to go wrong.

If people want a decent RR then they need to stump up the money it costs to buy a decent one. People buying old dogs then complaining about them is ridiculous.

 

[Nigel]

Neighbour has a non Hybrid Lexus they do look like great cars and will outlast a RR.

Only because they will stay parked up as they are far too embarrassed to drive a Lexus.

 

[Squid]

For the money you can't go wrong with a Lexus.