Cable Routing help required.

[Richlizard]

the boys are write strip and rip ,by the time you rip the laminate flooring and the original floor board, if not I bet you wish you had.
looking at the picture with under floor boards is It a original ring .
did your mate test to see if it a ring.r1&r2
you say you mate got 30years under his belt and now saying get a more experienced spark in.

I will try to explain better. My mate has said yes he will do the consumer unit. That is it. He has seen or tested nothing at all. I had 20 minutes max to look around where much of that was to disconnect an outside light that had already been sold on Ebay and disconnect a spur which they had been literally pulled off a wall and had it just hanging loose in a corner - still connected!

My experienced mate is now out of action until end of January which I mentioned in a previous post. As there seems to be some doubt as to whether I should even change a single socket, I suggested a more experienced electrician look at it - more experienced than ME!

Hope that explains it.

 

[Octopus]

The words that spring to mind are "can", "of" and "worms"

I would be VERY careful touching that lot - yeah, move a few sockets but how do you know they aren't spurs off spurs etc?

And as for introducing RCD's - that could be a disaster too.

Your mate needs to do a thorough EICR........... simples

 

[westward10]

From your picture where the cables pass through the joist they almost definitely drop down to a chase. Take the "tiny" socket off and see if there is play on them, there maybe if they are in capping. There is no reason why you couldn't pull them back and divert them to the other side using suitable jointing methods and a bit of fishing through the joist on the other side of the breast, these things can be done with some perseverance. Double check wall alignment as what you see downstairs isn't always mirrored upstairs. Just take a step back and consider your options.

 

[Richlizard]

The words that spring to mind are "can", "of" and "worms"

I would be VERY careful touching that lot - yeah, move a few sockets but how do you know they aren't spurs off spurs etc?

And as for introducing RCD's - that could be a disaster too.

Your mate needs to do a thorough EICR........... simples

I am new but know how to check for spurs off spurs.

But agree with your sentiments of possibly a can of worms.

 

[Richlizard]

From your picture where the cables pass through the joist they almost definitely drop down to a chase. Take the "tiny" socket off and see if there is play on them, there maybe if they are in capping. There is no reason why you couldn't pull them back and divert them to the other side using suitable jointing methods and a bit of fishing through the joist on the other side of the breast, these things can be done with some perseverance. Double check wall alignment as what you see downstairs isn't always mirrored upstairs. Just take a step back and consider your options.

Thanks. Are you saying to try to run the cable along the joist? Which I would assume passes through the chimney breast? Won't this be a heat hazard if within the chimney breast, albeit behind a joist?

But even if I manage that... there is no 'other side' from upstairs. Take a look at the bathroom image.

I may be misreading you here.

 

[The Ghost]

Well you will have to route your cables in the hallway then.

 

[Richlizard]

Well you will have to route your cables in the hallway then.

Sometimes the simplest option are the most obvious once pointed out

This is where my own inexperience shines through. So bring it down from upstairs hallway and chase into downstairs hallway at height? Then drill through into lounge at height and chase along and down to the corner? Obviously I can't go across in the void as I can't get through the bathroom tiling.

 

[The Ghost]

I think youre beginning to think. Of course it does depend on what way the joist run sometimes miraculously you can rod a cable through. I would be careful about where you locate the socket as it can be a pain trying to plug things in where that one is now.But at regs height it will be better. Depends where they are going to put equipment. But if they want to sell later then both alcoves will benefit. And usually there is a lot of sockets needed due to the plethora of equipment people want to plug in. Draw a plan of the whole ground floor and where sockets are needed then join the dots with your cable and work out the route.

 

[Andy78]

You could of course just chase within the room using permitted zones.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I hope he got l/b insurance of this job, Working on his mates place