Can you wire two Pyros into one socket?

[Davisonp]

What about disconnecting the spur then using a single to double socket converter over the MICC socket and filling the remains of the other single socket?

 

[Pete999]

What about disconnecting the spur then using a single to double socket converter over the MICC socket and filling the remains of the other single socket?

You would need to ascertain the integrity and the method of how the original SPUR was installed. is it part of the RFC or a spur from a spur, not as simple as imagine Davisonp

 

[Davisonp]

You would need to ascertain the integrity and the method of how the original SPUR was installed. is it part of the RFC or a spur from a spur, not as simple as imagine Davisonp

The folk who used to install MICC in general used to do things properly, so in this setup there was a single back box with two MICC into it, an someone wanted a second socket, so spurred off the MICC socket putting a second back box next to the original. Confirming the original MICC install should be straightforward, and not disturbing the original MICC back box preferable to messing with the buried cables, hence to tidy things up, a socket converter giving two sockets from a single back box and fill or remove and fill the spurred back box. Still a job for a proper electrician.

 

[Pete999]

The folk who used to install MICC in general used to do things properly, so in this setup there was a single back box with two MICC into it, an someone wanted a second socket, so spurred off the MICC socket putting a second back box next to the original. Confirming the original MICC install should be straightforward, and not disturbing the original MICC back box preferable to messing with the buried cables, hence to tidy things up, a socket converter giving two sockets from a single back box and fill or remove and fill the spurred back box. Still a job for a proper electrician.

good luck with that

 

[SFHD]

Davisonp: Thats food for thought, Ill tell my sparkie but Im still tempted to do it myself lol. I won't though, as you've said, the back box and milled nuts are ruined. I could be in a world of pain very quickly!

 

[LankyWill]

It is probably a ring final circuit so both need connection. You are going to need to knock out the wall below to access the glands to ensure they are very tight as the cable sheath provides the earth. I would seriously consider using an experienced electrician to do that and not some wet behind the ears youngster.

This youngster has rewired a lighting circuit in a church using Pyro, were all not complete tarts i will have you know.

 

[AJshep]

Last time i worked with Pyro was when a builder put an angle grinder through a 10mm 2 core submain in a empty flat.


Bloody thing was imperial it cost about £200 for the tools and gland that I needed to order to re- terminate it, I had to solder the pot on too as it was obsolete and didnt quite fit.
The stuff is so expensive now, personally wouldnt want to touch it unless I had the tools to hand.

 

[ipf]

Another issue is that they are probably imperial cables and a new back box will have metric entries which will be oversized and hence you lose an effective connection between the gland and back box which you do not want.

You could be right W, not sure. If it's push on neoprene, it's metric. The imperial discs I remember didn't have it. The sleeves were lipped and pushed through holes in the disc from the inside of the pot before sealing.

 

[davesparks]

If it's push on neoprene, it's metric. The imperial discs I remember didn't have it. The sleeves were lipped and pushed through holes in the disc from the inside of the pot before sealing.

Both types of disc and sleeve are still available, if I remember correctly the lipped type of sleeve is a higher temp deal than the standard stub cap type.

 

[ipf]

Both types of disc and sleeve are still available, if I remember correctly the lipped type of sleeve is a higher temp deal than the standard stub cap type.

True, I'm not saying they aren't.....but pre metric they were all lipped.

 

[davesparks]

Pyro is new to me, and from what they've been saying and showing me, its awful stuff - especially when it ancient like ours.
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It’s not awful stuff at all, it’s a pretty versatile and very resilient type of cable.
Working with it is a less common skill these days and these people telling you it is ‘awful stuff’ suggests that maybe they don’t have the skills.

Someone with the relevant experience, and maybe a little lateral thinking should have no problem doing the job safely and in full compliance with the regulations. Although whoever does it and however they do it there will have to be a bit of a hole made in the plaster to access the glands and cable.

 

[Toneyz]

Thanks Tel, tell me where can I get a Bobble, do CEF stock them, or is it an orange shed type item? can't think what the Guy behind the counter would say if I asked for a box of Bobbles to fit the new Bobble socket in my House.
Hope the OP isn't offended, cus it's banter, nothing more nothing less.

CEF would probably tell you one price for that Bobble and charge you another price.

 

[driverman]

Why not leave the existing MICC socket as it is , but replace the actual socket itself. Remove skt box on the left and replace it with a new twin socket box. Flush 2nd box about half inch from existing MICC box. That way, all neat and tidy, plus you will have 3 x sockets.

 

[mossep]

What about disconnecting the spur then using a single to double socket converter over the MICC socket and filling the remains of the other single socket?

Agree with Davisonp, simple DIY job & you'll be done in no time. Not worth complicating it if your not sure you have the skills.