NICEIC Certification Scheme Certificate issued no inspection

[Mmarlou]

Hi all. An electrician produced a certificate without doing an inspection am I able to report it to anyone and what action would be taken thanks

 

[loz2754]

Hi. What type of certificate was issued and what was it issued for?

 

[Mmarlou]

Hi it was an neciec home certificate for a landlord

 

[telectrix]

has he put his niceic membership number on the report? if so report it to niceic.

you could post the cert. on here, redacting any personal info. first.

 

[Mmarlou]

has he put his niceic membership number on the report? if so report it to niceic.

Ok I will check thanks for your help cheers

 

[telectrix]

are you the landlord? and can you tell what the cost of the report was?

 

[Mmarlou]

Ok I will check thanks for your help cheers

No I’m not the landlord I believe the cost was £140. Thanks

 

[telectrix]

that's a reasonable cost if done properly.

some landlords however just want a satisfactory report as cheap as possible, without caring if it's been done properly

 

[loz2754]

But not reasonable if done whilst sitting in van!

 

[Mmarlou]

that's a reasonable cost if done properly.

I thought so but he simply issued a certificate without entering the building. I see that as fraudulent. Does niceic have rules about this. Ta

But not reasonable if done whilst sitting in van!

 

[telectrix]

they definitely do have rules. he could end up struck off.

 

[Mmarlou]

they definitely do have rules. he could end up struck off.

Ok thank you for your assistance I will contact him and ask him to complete an inspection cheers

 

[James]

Use caution, could the inspection have been done without your knowledge? I.e before you moved in?

 

[Mmarlou]

Use caution, could the inspection have been done without your knowledge? I.e before you moved in?

No it was issued four weeks ago and I have been here since April. Ta

 

[Baddegg]

I doubt the niceic will be interested unless the person that paid for the report complains.....even then it would be a long shot, I’d say you should inform the landlord and take it from there

 

[Mmarlou]

I doubt the niceic will be interested unless the person that paid for the report complains.....even then it would be a long shot, I’d say you should inform the landlord and take it from there

Thanks for your help guys

 

[westward10]

Is there a next inspection date notice on the consumer unit.

 

[Mmarlou]

Is there a next inspection date notice on the consumer unit.

It’s 20/11/2019 if the inspection was done then there should be a new date five years from the inspection date I believe.

 

[westward10]

Was it the same contractor that did it previously.

 

[Mmarlou]

Was it the same contractor that did it previously.

No a different one

 

[loz2754]

Now we're getting somewhere. What is the date on the report?
If it's the same as the one on the consumer unit, then it looks the electrician has just reissued the same report. As that is a valid report, it still remains in force for 5 years from the date it was carried out.

 

[Mmarlou]

Now we're getting somewhere. What is the date on the report?
If it's the same as the one on the consumer unit, then it looks the electrician has just reissued the same report. As that is a valid report, it still remains in force for 5 years from the date it was carried out.

No the date on the report is 3/1/21

 

[loz2754]

No the date on the report is 3/1/21

Ok then. Looks like a fraudulent action in that case. Or of course it could well be a genuine mistake. The electrician may be using software that inserts the current date when opening a previous report. But he should have checked the date.

 

[westward10]

Do you actually have the Report and a picture of the consumer unit to see if the schedule tallies but remove any personal details and addresses.

 

[Mmarlou]

Do you actually have the Report and a picture of the consumer unit to see if the schedule tallies but remove any personal details and addresses.

I don’t have a copy of the report/certificate I’ll contact my landlord and ask if he can forward it to me thanks

 

[loz2754]

I don’t have a copy of the report/certificate I’ll contact my landlord and ask if he can forward it to me thanks

Good idea. Though you shouldn't have to ask for one. The landlord is legally obliged to give you a copy of the report within 28 days of it being issued.

 

[DefyG]

It might help your case if there are any issues that you believe are potentially dangerous and should have been picked up if properly inspected!
You should have been issued with a 'satisfactory' report as a new tenant (since July last year ) within a certain time period. You shouldn't need to ask the landlord, but if only been in since 4.Jan time might not be up yet.

 

[loz2754]

It might help your case if there are any issues that you believe are potentially dangerous and should have been picked up if properly inspected!
You should have been issued with a 'satisfactory' report as a new tenant (since July last year ) within a certain time period. You shouldn't need to ask the landlord, but if only been in since 4.Jan time might not be up yet.

The report is to be given to any new tenant before the tenancy starts:

"This instrument imposes duties on landlords to have an electrical installation
inspection and test, carried out by a qualified and competent person, at least every five
years. This is alongside other duties on private landlords including:
• Obtaining a report from the person conducting the inspection and test which
explains the outcomes of the report, supplying a copy of this report to the
existing / resident tenant within 28 days of the inspection and test, to a new
tenant before they occupy the premises, and to any prospective tenant within
28 days of receiving a request for the report.

 

[UNG]

No the date on the report is 3/1/21

I don’t have a copy of the report/certificate I’ll contact my landlord and ask if he can forward it to me thanks

Am I missing something here OP knows the date of the report but doesn't have a copy

 

[DefyG]

Ah missed post#14 so OP is an existing tenant (since April 20) so should get report within 28 days of test date..... 3.Jan 21.