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davey1984

Hi im new to this game as you will probably tell but i am also not one of these fly by night just done a weeks course i can now do everything guy. Basicaly my experiance so far is 100% mains electric supply as i work for a energy supplier installing single phase and 3 phase electric meters. my current knowledge extends to basicly being able to rewire everything from the electric meter to the consumer unit with little knowledge beyond the consumer unit. What i am interested in is up skilling to become able to perform consumer unit upgrades as with my line of work i see 10-15 customers houses everyday and you can gaurentee at least 5 will ask me how much to upgrade this and that so i thought why dont i upskill gain the correct qualifications and create my own company to capitalise on this. Now i could attend one of these week long courses you see advertised on the internet but im a firm believer in if your going to do a job do it right first time round so who better to ask than qualified electricans any help would be appreciated were i start , which course i need ect ect.
 
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to change consumer units you will need to qualify as an "electrician"

you will need to get the correct qualifications and then register with a body like NICEIC to be able to sign off your own work.

iv never believed in these week long courses myself.

i have studied a total of 3 years at college now on day release along with a full time job.

qualified to level 3, 2330 with my AM2.

soon to get my 2391 :)

dont see how you can learn all this in a week ?

experience takes time..
 
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I used to work for SEC and when there was no work on Contracting , went on to Re certs (meter replacement ) I saw loads off work , that was back in the early eighties , but because I was employed and working under a contract of employment , which does not allow private work , especially if you are touting for work the way your thinking , do you not know that these potential customers not Know this , I saw what happens to guys if caught. You loose your job , and your customers
 
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murdoch if your confused dont anwser questions the rcd protection link youve posted is referring to a different question i asked and has nothing to do with consumer unit upgrade qualifications. Now i can see how you would put 2 and 2 together and think this guy just needs to know how to do it himself but let me reasure you unless i hold the relevant qualifications i aint touching nothing do not confuse me with one of these micky mouse sparkys pease.
 
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i hear what your saying and yes this is what i thought but i dont work for say someone like british gas who operate there own electrical division who offer upgrades i work for a energy supplier who does not off this service and have spoke to my management who have said i can have a second job as long as it does not interfere with my primary job which it wont and because they do not offer this service im not taking business away from them
 
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im not changing any cu yet!! i'll ask you a question rob2 when you first started out in this game were you competent enough to change a cu? i'll answer it for you no you were not. I asked a question regarding rcds as i am qualified to extract a mains fuse from the dno cutout which allows me to work safely on an internal supply now if i know im not qualified to change a cu what do you think im going to do instead maybe fit a dp isolation switch or rcd? this is why i asked the question to see wether a rcd would be better than a bp isolation switch which i am competent to fit. maybe these so called "electricains" who seem to think having a dig at someone is amusing ought to ask them selves a question are you's competent enough to hold down common sense conversations or just silly remarks?? if it the latter then be gone with you
 
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davey1984 said:
murdoch if your confused dont anwser questions the rcd protection link youve posted is referring to a different question i asked and has nothing to do with consumer unit upgrade qualifications. Now i can see how you would put 2 and 2 together and think this guy just needs to know how to do it himself but let me reasure you unless i hold the relevant qualifications i aint touching nothing do not confuse me with one of these micky mouse sparkys pease.
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Matey, IF that is the case why did you post the 2 questions?

There have been MANY on here trying to blag their way
 
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davey1984 said:
Hi im new to this game as you will probably tell but i am also not one of these fly by night just done a weeks course i can now do everything guy. Basicaly my experiance so far is 100% mains electric supply as i work for a energy supplier installing single phase and 3 phase electric meters. my current knowledge extends to basicly being able to rewire everything from the electric meter to the consumer unit with little knowledge beyond the consumer unit. What i am interested in is up skilling to become able to perform consumer unit upgrades as with my line of work i see 10-15 customers houses everyday and you can gaurentee at least 5 will ask me how much to upgrade this and that so i thought why dont i upskill gain the correct qualifications and create my own company to capitalise on this. Now i could attend one of these week long courses you see advertised on the internet but im a firm believer in if your going to do a job do it right first time round so who better to ask than qualified electricans any help would be appreciated were i start , which course i need ect ect.
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You see, here you are asking about qualifications, your other post you were saying you couldn't afford a new CU - make up your mind.
 
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I've never changed a domestic CU, yes I was an apprentice at some point and diddnt know what I was doing. I had a mentor overseeing every job I did whilst I was learning.

Are you planning an apprentiship? Pulling a DNO fuse is no stamp of competency, so I wouldn't use that as being 'qualified'.

Do you understand why dp isolation is needed?

If you took the last post as me having a go I'm not, I know everyone has to learn but a little knowledge is dangerous.
 
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You have no Experience or qualifications to carry out this work , these potential customers will require all of this and more , they may well think you are an Electrician because these people are having their meter replaced by you , You represent that company , If something goes wrong , ie nuisance tripping of RCDs or MCBs etc , what will thes peolple do ,remember you cannot please everybody , who are these people going to ring. You say you want to do things properly . Well think about it . I have seen it all working for a REC , the people higher up within your organisation do come from the same background , and will soon put a stop to what your thinking , after all
 
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davey1984 said:
im not changing any cu yet!! i'll ask you a question rob2 when you first started out in this game were you competent enough to change a cu? i'll answer it for you no you were not. I asked a question regarding rcds as i am qualified to extract a mains fuse from the dno cutout which allows me to work safely on an internal supply now if i know im not qualified to change a cu what do you think im going to do instead maybe fit a dp isolation switch or rcd? this is why i asked the question to see wether a rcd would be better than a bp isolation switch which i am competent to fit. maybe these so called "electricains" who seem to think having a dig at someone is amusing ought to ask them selves a question are you's competent enough to hold down common sense conversations or just silly remarks?? if it the latter then be gone with you
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This post sums up your poor attitude, good luck with getting any answers when you respond like that.
 
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how many blaggers have been on asking about how to gain the correct qualifications and how to go about it? if i as a blagger i wouldnt be on i would have just paid my fee and went on a weeks course bobs your uncle. but im not let me reasure you i advise customers all day long to seek professional advise and not just any old jack from down the road to do there work. i am genuinley interested in becoming up skilled and was only trying to find out if fitting a rcd would be better than a dp isolation switch. like i said before left of the cu unit im all over it from the cutout but beyond the consumer unit though my knowledge is limited thats why i asked the question.
 
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you say poor attitude but all im recieving is negative snarky comments constantly reminding me im not competent to change a cu unit! i know this i was asking how to up skill to aquire this qualification and knowledge but it seems alot of people just come to put others down were do you go from there?
 
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davey1984 said:
you say poor attitude but all im recieving is negative snarky comments constantly reminding me im not competent to change a cu unit! i know this i was asking how to up skill to aquire this qualification and knowledge but it seems alot of people just come to put others down were do you go from there?
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we've all been there mate :)
 
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davey1984 said:
you say poor attitude but all im recieving is negative snarky comments constantly reminding me im not competent to change a cu unit! i know this i was asking how to up skill to aquire this qualification and knowledge but it seems alot of people just come to put others down were do you go from there?
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Who's said you're not competent. NOT ME.
 
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edf a large company? no edf are cowboys and subcontract all there work out to g4s utility who are even bigger cowboys if the olympics is anything to go off. On a more serious note i can understand why you would worry about some people working with live electrics as some of the larger companys are training up meter readers to install electric meters and i have witnessed some of there handy work when i have had to attend call outs for cross polaritys and exposed copper and yes i agree the training is diabolical but thankfully i was all ready familiar with electrics as i was a engineers within the lift industry for 10 yrs before i moved to metering so i knew a little already.
 
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to reply to a question put by shocking_eg you are correct we ho change your meters are indeed not qualified electricians and infact i started out with british gas and i as flabagasted at the training they provided to new recruits on how to change electric meters 2 WEEKS TRAINING that is all now as i explained i had prevouis knowledge of electrics little i awknowledge but never the less i shared a room for six months with a guy who was a waiter all of his life and is now a trained 3 phase meter engineer. i have raised concerns about this training method and in my daily job i audit engneers and see just how shocking some are.
 
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Davey hinny, gan doon te sooth tyneside college it westa in sooth shiels. Taalk te Greg Peacock or Bri Haal
Them gadgies'l keep ye reet n git ye aal the quals ye'll iva need te be a spaaky lyk
 
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